open discussion on scopes
Posted 12 May 2008 - 10:10 PM
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Posted 13 May 2008 - 08:28 AM
Well, but . . . for what you spent on your black gun you could have bought your Tikka T3 Lite .243 AND and a good scope AND had $$$ left over to buy beer for everyone coming to the Bakersfield Gathering! Woodog
Just my I have heard over and over to spend the same $$ on a scope as I did on the rifle, but I just can't bring myself to do it. I have no doubt that the high priced scopes are worth it and the folks saying to spend the $$ are right, but mine are good enough for me. It's like comparing cars....a Chevy will get me from point A to B but a Mercedes will get you there faster and in comfort (and maybe be more reliable).
Posted 13 May 2008 - 10:07 AM
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Posted 13 May 2008 - 01:10 PM
Haha, I think Steve had Buyers remorse before he bought. I on the other hand think my AR is awesome and money well spent. My only issue with it is I am scared of getting busted with it (even though I know it's legal) and having them confiscate it and do who know's what to me in the way of fines/jail etc. I may end up fine when all is said and done, and get my guns back etc. but I'm just not sure I want to be the poster boy that has to go through all of that to prove a point. So, I may just leave my AR in the safe for now until something concrete has come out on the whole Bullet Button thing. It's hard enough to find places to hunt, but adding what other people PERCEIVE as an "Evil Assault Rifle" to the mix just makes it worse.Woodog also thinks my groups aren't that great from my AR (and is most likely expecting similar results from his). I think my AR could shoot better groups with some more ammo testing, a better trigger and more trigger time by me (most likely the larger groups are my fault). But, i am happy with the way it shoots for a Lightweight Coyote Wounder/Scarer (you guys know what I'm referring to). ;)Given the closeness both Coyotes have been so far, I will be taking my shotgun with me on the next Coyote outing. I will also have my Tikka .243 dialed in by then and I will have that in the Jeep as well for the longer range stuff.Sorry, not trying to hi-jack this thread.
Am I sensing some buyer's remorse on your behalf? (both of you)
Posted 13 May 2008 - 01:12 PM
Well mine is all together except for the winter trigger guard and the punches i needed arrived from MidwayUSA yesterday so that should be done tonight. I'll take it out the weekend after next and give it a try. Got the scope mounted in Millet 1" high rings Sunday and the height is perfect,but too high to use my bore sighting tools. I'm not sure why I'm not more excited about this thing and hope that will change after I fire it. I guess part of my concern is being hassled by a LEO who doesn't understand "California legal". A stupid warden could sure screw up an otherwise great day of hunting. I still have the new Beeman Goldfinger to try too and I am a little excited about that. Woodog
Am I sensing some buyer's remorse on your behalf? (both of you)
Posted 13 May 2008 - 03:23 PM
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Posted 13 May 2008 - 08:01 PM
Yup, that's why I made mine look as "hunter friendly" as possible. I was supposed to take it out last weekend for it's virgin shot but this is a busy time of year for me breaking horses, showing, etc.Any rate - back to the main topic of discussion... I'm staying out of this one. LMAOI made my first el cheapo purchase a few weeks ago, got all kinds of hell for and never even shot my rifle with it. went through one other that my wife made me return because it didn't match like it should... (sheesh - women and their matching accessories) and I wound up with a Leupold 4-12X40. So now I have all Leupold on my centerfires and Bushnell Legends on my rimfires. Hrm - seeing a pattern here?
My only issue with it is I am scared of getting busted with it (even though I know it's legal)
Posted 13 May 2008 - 08:15 PM
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Posted 14 May 2008 - 07:22 AM
Hmmm. I also have a Simmons 44mag and I think it's a pretty nice scope especially for the $120 I paid for it. As for the POI being off, the 44mag is one of the best scopes Simmons has ever made. I would guess you either got a bad one, or something else is causing the change in POI. I wouldn't for one second though think it would match a $1000 Leupold. I would venture to say any scope in the $500+ range is going to be much better than the "Pretty damn good for the price" $100-150 scopes. I would compare my "Pretty damn good for the price" $100-150 scopes to other scopes costing up to $300. A for instance is the Bushnell Browning that I recently bought for $129. It is made to the same specs as the Elite 3200 and since it has been discontinued, they are blowing them out at almost 50% the price of a 3200. The Elite 3200 is considered a nice Entry Level scope.On the other hand there are tons of crappy scopes out there in the $50-150 range that I wouldn't even consider using. BSA comes to mind. I bought one a long time ago and it lasted about 15 minutes before I took it off and got something else.Good luck with your Leupy, I'm sure you will love it.
it is a simmons 6.5-20 wide angle 44 mag with turrets.
Posted 14 May 2008 - 12:08 PM
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Posted 14 May 2008 - 09:05 PM
I know what a lot of people think of Bronco's Charles Shaw, but every time I see someone comment about I just have to point this out. I will admit, my wife and I use it as our 'table' wine but this speaks for itself.
And this is why Traders Joes sells alot of 2 buck chuck wine...
(sorry to go off topic)
At the 28th Annual International Eastern Wine Competition, Shaw's 2002 Shiraz received the double gold medal, besting the roughly 2,300 other wines in the competition.Shaw's 2005 California chardonnay was judged Best Chardonnay from California at the Commercial Wine Competition of the 2007 California Exposition and State Fair. The chardonnay received 98 points, a double gold, with accolades of Best of California and Best of Class.
Posted 14 May 2008 - 09:57 PM
Posted 14 May 2008 - 10:08 PM
I know some very "In the Know" people in the wine industry. They laugh at Bronco's gold medals you mention. Apparently the source of the wine was not closely tracked. It should have been randomly taken off shelves but was provided direct from the winery. Fox in the hen house. Back on subject on scopes. I've got Swarovski's, Leupolds, Nikon Buckmasters, and Burris scopes. Plus a few Bushies and Simmons. My old eyes like the best glass however the Nikon Buckmaster are darn easy on the eye and alot of bang for the buck.
I know what a lot of people think of Bronco's Charles Shaw, but every time I see someone comment about I just have to point this out. I will admit, my wife and I use it as our 'table' wine but this speaks for itself.(sorry to go off topic)
Posted 15 May 2008 - 07:11 AM
You just brought a tear to my Deerslam.. I don't think it could have been put any better than that!
You get what you pay for when buying glass for your rifles. I will not put cheap glass on my huntin rifles...PERIOD! Most of my rifles are for big game huntin and I spend a lot of money and time on my hunts and will always use the very best gear I can afford. All of my rifles wear nothing less than Leupolds, which in my opinion are great scopes with the best customer service. I can't see someone spending a $1000 or more on a rifle and puttin a $159 scope on it. You and your rifle can only shoot what you can see and I can't see driving 100's if not 1000's of miles to have your scope fail. There are too many variables in huntin that we can not control. One thing I can control is my gear and I will always use the best I can or in some cases can't afford. My .02
Posted 15 May 2008 - 09:14 PM
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