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Posted 29 April 2008 - 03:23 PM

It's been a while scince I've owned an air rifle so I stoped by wally world after work and picked one up. I've only owned two springers in the past and I never cared much for either one but I figured I'd try a different brand name and see what happens. I should've known better than to pick a crossman over a beeman but it was a bit cheaper and had the same velocity so I got it. What a peice of junk! I figured the trigger wouldn't be all that great anyway, but the box said it has an adjustable trigger.....there is no adjustment screw on the gun where the diagram shows it's supposed to be! :yikes[1]: I thought I was going to bend the barrel when I had to break it over my knee to get it opened for the first time and it was still very hard to break after putting 50 shots thru it. It wasn't the spring tension but something mechanicaly wrong. I'm taking it back tomarrow but I just don't know if I want to try out that beeman or just get my money back, swear off springers, and go find a Sheridan/Benjamin.
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 05:48 PM

The Sheridan/Benjamin will be loud! Plus they only get about 650fps. Beeman has several levels of quality but I think you'd be surprised at the difference from what you got today. Peeker Seeker has a Beeman that's from WalMart I think. I have a .22 cal Beeman I got from WalMart that I bought to hunt turkey with because I didn't know I could have used my .20cal. :censored[1]: But I still use that Beeman and i loan it to people that want to shoot with me and don't have one. It is a great gun for the price and is much more accurate and powerful than my Sheridan I have used for decades. I would recommend you try the Beeman.

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 07:02 PM

How much are the Beeman's at Wally World? All this airgun talk has got my attention, but I don't want to spend $400 or more (not yet anyway).
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:17 AM

I've got a LOUD Sheridan in .177 that I've had since I was about 12. Besides the loudness factor...that thing is DEAD on still. I only use the iron sights on it, but man at backyard distances, that thing will go through a starlings eye.
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:30 AM

Yeah my Sheridan Blue Streak is loud too. Seems difficult to pump too but gets the job done. I need something quiet in a .22 cal, any suggestions?

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 11:47 AM

Beeman in .20 or .22 cal that way you can hunt turkey with it in CA. They are much quicker than the Sheridan and only one stroke to cock it.

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 11:51 AM

Beeman in .20 or .22 cal that way you can hunt turkey with it in CA. They are much quicker than the Sheridan and only one stroke to cock it.Here are two of my Beeman's. The top one is my R9 Goldfinger it's the best in fact I have two in different calibers. One is .177 Cal and the second is a .20 cal which I would recommend. The lower one is a .22 cal GS 950 I believe it was called and I got it from Walmart for like $200 with 3-9 Bushnell scope.Posted Image

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 12:48 PM

I took that crossman back but the only beeman they had looked like someone had bought it and returned it already so I passed on it. I don't really care how loud my next air rifle is I just want a good accurate gun with a decent trigger pull and a price tag that is under 200 dollars.
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Posted 19 May 2008 - 07:45 PM

Look at gamo Matt big 5 should have them. I loved my gamo 1,000 fps .177 I killed ground squirrels with it.than it was stolen :roflmao3[1]:

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:29 PM

Big 5 has good deals on Beamons thats where Peeker got his . they have great sales at times. ( on air rifles) Been looking to.
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Posted 20 May 2008 - 05:52 AM

I have an RWS model 52 that is wicked on squirrels and it will shoot under a dime at 20 yds with Beeman Kodiak Extra Heavy pellets. It's a little on the heavy side for hauling around but does great just around the back yard. I have had it for 20 yrs and have had the mainspring replaced for free only once.Brant

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 12:03 PM

Got my Beeman from Big 5 vary pleased with it, it kills, accurate. feels like a deer rifle nice ajustable trigger. 3x9x 40 Beeman scope. It put kitty # 5 asleep one shot. the other night. #1 gun for the cotton tails.. :smiley-innocent-halo-yellow:Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:08 PM

That's a nice lookin air rifle peeker. I ended up getting the Gamo Big Cat and I am not impressed. I think it's the scope and I am waiting on a little more info from Woodog before doing anything else to it (He has the same one and was going to change the scope and trigger). POI just moves around too much.
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:30 PM

same thing with my friends, and just about everyone I've heard of with that Gamo.Which Beeman did you get Peeker?
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:38 PM

The lower gun is my post above is the older version of what Peeker has I believe. It is a .22 cal GS 950 and I got it from Walmart for like $200 with 3-9 Bushnell scope. The newer versions have the longer forearm to cover the breech break action. But it's powerful enough for turkey. I dropped one dead with it one shot opening day a couple years back. I like my Beeman R9 Goldfingers better but this is a fine shooting airgun especially for the money.

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 02:17 PM

That's a nice lookin air rifle peeker. I ended up getting the Gamo Big Cat and I am not impressed. I think it's the scope and I am waiting on a little more info from Woodog before doing anything else to it (He has the same one and was going to change the scope and trigger). POI just moves around too much.

The new scope didn't help much at all. I gave the old Gamo scope to one of the guy's kids at the Gathering. It is really a piece of do-do, but he was happy. I still have an after market trigger to install, but I ran out of interest before I got around to it. The Beeman is just so much more gun than the Gamo and it shoots where you aim.
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 02:20 PM

Steve it is true that you get what you pay for. When I show people what my Beeman's will do and how quiet they are it really sells them.

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 02:23 PM

Steve it is true that you get what you pay for. When I show people what my Beeman's will do and how quiet they are it really sells them.

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 02:27 PM

It really is when it comes to airguns. I've had people that have shot other airguns and then they try mine and they say, "that is the smoothest cocking gun and the trigger is beautiful!"

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 02:40 PM

It really is when it comes to airguns. I've had people that have shot other airguns and then they try mine and they say, "that is the smoothest cocking gun and the trigger is beautiful!"

You're selling it to me, John and I haven't even shot it or seen it yet!I looked online at Walmart and they don't offer any right now, unfortunately. If I could keep it under $200 for a .20 or .22 cal that would be nice!
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 04:02 PM

Yeah California WalMarts stopped selling them. Too bad as it was a decent gun for a very good price.

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 05:47 PM

I looked online at Walmart and they don't offer any right now, unfortunately. If I could keep it under $200 for a .20 or .22 cal that would be nice!

John can lead you to the best price available for a Beeman R9 Goldfinger and it is worth it, but you could buy a good Savage/Stevens center fire for the same price. Of course you couldn't shoot the center fire in your backyard. Don't waste your $$$ on a cheap air gun. Been there and done it and it doesn't feel good. The Goldfinger is built like a quality deer rifle and you won't be disappointed with the way it shoots, looks and feels.Woodog
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 06:03 PM

John can lead you to the best price available for a Beeman R9 Goldfinger and it is worth it, but you could buy a good Savage/Stevens center fire for the same price. Of course you couldn't shoot the center fire in your backyard. Don't waste your $$$ on a cheap air gun. Been there and done it and it doesn't feel good. The Goldfinger is built like a quality deer rifle and you won't be disappointed with the way it shoots, looks and feels.Woodog

How much quieter would you say your goldfinger is than the Gamo? Also, you said the new scope didn't make it much better. Is the POI still moving around by inches? I wasn't expecting dime groups, but 2-5" off is just crazy. I was hoping to use this on squirrels sometimes, but 2-5" off is a miss. I shot my 10/22 this weekend, 3 shots at 3 squirrels all dead (one was a head shot cause it was poking out of the hole and all I could see was it's head). All were under 50yds, and this would have been perfect for the pellet gun, but not the way it is shooting.
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 06:49 PM

How much quieter would you say your goldfinger is than the Gamo? Also, you said the new scope didn't make it much better. Is the POI still moving around by inches? I wasn't expecting dime groups, but 2-5" off is just crazy. I was hoping to use this on squirrels sometimes, but 2-5" off is a miss.

The new scope is much better, but the flyers are still a big problem. I sighted in at about 50 feet and with the old scope I was shooting +/- three inches. The new Barska would group around one inch then I would shoot a flyer three inches off every four of five shots or so. The trigger is really bad and, hopefully, the new trigger will help. The Beeman has more of a .22-like crack to it while the Gamo noise is mostly spring sound (which is an ugly sound if your are used to shooting powder propelled projectiles).
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 06:57 PM

Woodog that crack will go away as you shoot the Beeman more. It still has some oil in it that has to work it's way out and it's dieseling. It will come down to a low thud sound when shooting it. Depending on conditions it can take a tin of pellets to completely get rid of the dieseling. Most are done within 100 shoots.

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 07:07 PM

The new scope is much better, but the flyers are still a big problem. I sighted in at about 50 feet and with the old scope I was shooting +/- three inches. The new Barska would group around one inch then I would shoot a flyer three inches off every four of five shots or so. The trigger is really bad and, hopefully, the new trigger will help. The Beeman has more of a .22-like crack to it while the Gamo noise is mostly spring sound (which is an ugly sound if your are used to shooting powder propelled projectiles).

I just don't get the fliers? I thought other guys were reporting these to be really accurate and a good buy for the $$. I know you get what you pay for, but these fliers SUCK! I haven't picked mine up since the first day cuase it just disgusted me. As far as the Ugly sound I know what your talking about. Almost like something is broke (I guess it's just the sound of the spring). I may try to get another scope for it, but since you already tried that, I may just cut my losses. Sucks, cause I was very close to buying a RWS Diana, but I bought this instead.
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:51 PM

My beeman is a GH 1000. Shot strait out of the box. Its going 1000fps so it dos make a crack. Its so acurite Im on the first 5oo rnd tin of pellets . It loves the crosman premium grade pointed pellets . At 30 to 40 yds its all in the same hole. And it goes through cats and bunnies. PS. Its a .177cal. The scope is verry nice and made really good. Clear and easy to adjust. 3x9x32 beeman ,bushnell. This rifle has forced the 10-22 to retire ..
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 08:44 AM

Peeker get yourself some heavier pellets than what you're shooting and that will drop your velocity and no more crack.

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 10:17 AM

Let me guess.............The Crossman Storm SXT.... Took mine back...5 to 6 inch group at 30 yards.t/c223encore.

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 05:29 PM

Yep...........junk!
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