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#1 Truckeedan

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 04:28 PM

Did any of you bird hunters happen to notice the number of pheasants killed by coyotes? We must have seen over a dozen in the first two fields we hunted on Saturday up around Willows.Truckeedan
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Posted 12 November 2007 - 04:30 PM

I'll volunteer my services to them and remove any and all yotes :D
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Posted 12 November 2007 - 04:34 PM

Most of those place will flatly turn you down. They want you to pay to shoot their coyotes. I don't know why but that seems to be the consensus of the bird owners I've heard asked. :WTF_1:

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 04:41 PM

Just curious. How do you know they were only killed by yotes?db
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Posted 12 November 2007 - 04:42 PM

Most of those place will flatly turn you down. They want you to pay to shoot their coyotes. I don't know why but that seems to be the consensus of the bird owners I've heard asked. :WTF_1:

You're right John. I sent cards and letters to 14 bird preserves and got zero replies. Hope the yotes eat em out of house and home.
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Posted 12 November 2007 - 04:43 PM

There was a business card near them with the name Willey Coyote on it. :D

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 04:45 PM

You're right John. I sent cards and letters to 14 bird preserves and got zero replies. Hope the yotes eat em out of house and home.

Mike,I did the same thing, only I went in person and still got a no. I guess they are concerned about liability, since they have everyone sign a release before they are allowed to shoot their pheasants.db
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Posted 12 November 2007 - 04:47 PM

I'd be happy to sign their release and shoot their coyotes too. For FREE!

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 04:48 PM

Mike,I did the same thing, only I went in person and still got a no. I guess they are concerned about liability, since they have everyone sign a release before they are allowed to shoot their pheasants.db

I sent them far and wide. Wasn't about to do that much driving.
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Posted 12 November 2007 - 04:48 PM

There was a business card near them with the name Willey Coyote on it. :P

Hey John,That must be true, since all of the business cards I left ended up in their garbage cans. :signlol2iu:
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Posted 12 November 2007 - 10:38 PM

i was told i could hunt yotes for a place.. but the catch was we have to pay a membership fee and only use shotguns till he is comfortable with us

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:36 AM

Just curious. How do you know they were only killed by yotes?db

Usually you just find a pile of feathers and the wings with a lot of coyote tracks around them. Everything else is missing. The evidence is usually in the checks between fields where it is very unlikely that a hunter would be cleaning birds. I guess something else could be killing them and the coyote was just walking by.
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 07:53 AM

Up by Maxwell on Friday night you could hear a bunch of coyotes calling.

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 07:57 AM

Usually you just find a pile of feathers and the wings with a lot of coyote tracks around them. Everything else is missing. The evidence is usually in the checks between fields where it is very unlikely that a hunter would be cleaning birds. I guess something else could be killing them and the coyote was just walking by.

That and if you are talking refuges...you can't clean birds in the field, so it's going to be a coyote. We see it all the time with ducks. A hunter will wound or kill one and not be able to find it, but the coyotes find it that night.
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 08:58 AM

Some pheasants are killed by hawks. Then there are the one that were wounded or crippled. But the coyotes and fox normally clean up the mess. I agree those coyote footprints are a definite sign they had a meal there.

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 09:13 AM

I don't know about that, It's probably a hawk wearing little coyote track booties, to place blame on somebody else. :signlol2iu:
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 12:42 PM

We did see a lot of hawks but the evidence says coyotes. Hawks will get them when they are out in the open but these kills we saw were in the heavy stuff on the checks. The Elks plant birds too so I would guess some were easily killed by coyotes shortly after they were planted.
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 12:53 PM

when i was in kansas a few weeks ago.. we saw 6 birds run into a field so we were walking it.. i flushed a hawk right in from of me, as i walked closer there was a dead pheasant that the hawk just killed and was starting to eat.. i know it was one of the ones we saw cause we flushed the other 5... needless to say we only got 3 of them.. and i didn't even have a shot.. but it was a neat site to see that..

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 03:19 AM

I think most of the kills are from hawks and what's left the coyote eats . I found a nicely pick clean skeleton of a pheasant I released once.After I let it go the dumb farm raised bird just stood in a open Field.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 08:39 AM

You could be right about the tag team approach with coyotes following up on a hawk kill. In all the kills we saw the only bones we found were the lower wing sections. Hawks will pick a kill's bones but a coyote will eat a bird bones and all. We assumed that because of the tracks and all the traffic around the fields in the day time that the kills were being done by coyotes at night. I always thought hawks were signt hunters. I don't think hawks hunt a night, do they? (But Owls do! Would an owl eat a pheasant?)
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 12:06 PM

In our fields we kick up owls all the time... And guess what they are eating? We watch the hawks hunt pheasants all day long. Last weekend a hawk flushed one by the fence line right in front of my truck, it was cool. The other birds that are out there are the kites, i guess they are kind of a hawk. They are neat to watch hunt also. I think the foxes and the coyotes are the clean up crue in the eve time.




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