Grandfather's old Baker side by side shotgun
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 08:40 AM
While I was back home in Missouri recently I took a little time to dig my grand fathers old side by side shotgun out to see what I could learn about it and to take a few pictures. Turns out it was an old Baker side by side. It is a break down model that all fits into a leather case for transport. Each piece, even the wooden forearm, has serial numbers on them that all still matched. Here are a few pictures.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 08:43 AM
Nice gun. It reminds me on my grandfather's Ithaca I have.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 08:43 AM
What a beauty. That thing is awesome.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:55 AM
is that a damascus barrel?
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:00 AM
It is. And from what I have been able to learn it was made in the late 1800's.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:07 AM
From what I hear, you should not use normal loads in that gun...the barrel is not strong enough to handle it...
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:12 AM
Correct. But this shotgun is now retired and will not be shot.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:15 AM
just making sure... 
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 01:56 PM
What a great piece of history. And a great keepsake.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 05:52 PM
Nice gun. I wouldn't leave it stored in the leather case.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 06:18 PM
awesome gun... i'd be currious to what its worth.. not that you'd sell it or anything, my grandfather left me his 870 12g. even though it isn't anything like yours i would never sell it, means too much..
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 06:53 PM
That's a great family heirloom! There are still people who can ring test damascus barrels. I couldn't keep that beautifull side by side out of the field. Some goex "black dawge" loads would probably be mild enough put ol' betsy back in buisness.Correct. But this shotgun is now retired and will not be shot.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 07:04 PM
I agree, but my father isn't much of a bird hunter and doesn't wish to hunt with it. When it is passed on to me I would love to take it back to South Dakota and hunt pheasants with it like my grandfather once did and loved.I couldn't keep that beautifull side by side out of the field. Some goex "black dawge" loads would probably be mild enough put ol' betsy back in buisness.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:40 PM
Nice old double . I have a old LC Smith that was given to me I shot a few round threw it .Then I stopped and put it away when I found out it could go caa boom.I have a forearm that does not fit it if someone needs one.
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Posted 30 October 2007 - 11:11 AM
BTW, Bakers were apparently made by LC Smith, or related to them.http://www.lcsmith.o...tguns/data.html
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Posted 30 October 2007 - 12:05 PM
Thanks! Looks like this one was made in 1898.
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Posted 30 October 2007 - 02:28 PM
Here's a picture of my old Ithaca.
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68 downloadsIt's actually called a Flues Model Ithaca Double 20 ga manufactured in 1913. It was my great grandfathers gun given to me by my grandfather. I redid the checkering on it in high school because it had been worn down to nothing. I just read that Baker started Ithaca. But this gun is very light and points and swings faster than almost any shotgun I own. I only use it for quail and pheasant because that's what my grandfather gave it to me to shoot. It's had some use but is still extremely tight especially for it's age.
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68 downloadsIt's actually called a Flues Model Ithaca Double 20 ga manufactured in 1913. It was my great grandfathers gun given to me by my grandfather. I redid the checkering on it in high school because it had been worn down to nothing. I just read that Baker started Ithaca. But this gun is very light and points and swings faster than almost any shotgun I own. I only use it for quail and pheasant because that's what my grandfather gave it to me to shoot. It's had some use but is still extremely tight especially for it's age.
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Posted 30 October 2007 - 02:32 PM
Very nice!
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Posted 30 October 2007 - 02:47 PM
Thanks! I never bothered to look it up until now. I wouldn't have known what a Flues Ithaca was except that Clampdaddy's Ithaca was a Flues too. I found one just like mine for sale here. http://www.joesalter...?f_qryitem=2975But mines in much nicer condition. They're asking $975 for their's. Apparently the smaller gauge shotguns bring more because they didn't produce as many of them. But I'd never sell it. I'll have to will it to someone else when I'm done with it.
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Posted 30 October 2007 - 07:44 PM
It'd sure look good in the safe right next to my flues 
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Posted 31 October 2007 - 09:26 AM
I'm sure it would Matt! Hey you never know maybe someday.
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Posted 31 October 2007 - 04:55 PM
At the next BBQ we should have a clay shoot. We all do so much yaking about our varmint and predator rifles but our scatterguns don't get to much attention. Between Crankyfarmer and his Baker, Shoot-it and his L.C. Smith, and our pair of Ithacas we've got a nice little collection of classic american bird guns. I'd be interested to see what some of the other members have tucked away in thier closets.
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My rifle is mine, it isn't for sale, and I only give guns to people that I really like.
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Posted 31 October 2007 - 06:24 PM
I'm sure buzzard's got something hidden away. 
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Posted 01 November 2007 - 02:20 PM
trust me you don't want to look at mine its bad! has no forearm.At the next BBQ we should have a clay shoot. We all do so much yaking about our varmint and predator rifles but our scatterguns don't get to much attention. Between Crankyfarmer and his Baker, Shoot-it and his L.C. Smith, and our pair of Ithacas we've got a nice little collection of classic american bird guns. I'd be interested to see what some of the other members have tucked away in thier closets.
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