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[huntnsurf]

Just wanted to know if I am reading the new regulations correctly, there is a season for crow hunting for non landowners?

[Cranky Farmer]

There is a season for everyone. Land owners can get depredation permits if they are being a problem.

[Bozsik]

Just wanted to know if I am reading the new regulations correctly, there is a season for crow hunting for non landowners?

Usually runs from the first part of Dec for 120 consecutive days.db

[sportyg]

Season opens Dec 1.. Going to hunt them myself this year for the first time.. Hate crows..

[ShooterJohn]

And don't forget to take your crows to the Post Office. I have to do that this year.

[huntnsurf]

So I am correct you dont need to be a land owner to hunt crows.

[ShooterJohn]

Anyone can hunt crows during crow season. Landowners can get special permits to shoot them out of season. Those permits are called depredation permit but there are lots of steps to go through to get them and to use them.

[huntnsurf]

isnt this new this year or did I just not understand the regs.

[ShooterJohn]

Regulations can be confusing and crows are regulated by the federal government as well. So I'll post the full regulation. I think you're reading this portion of the regulations and getting confused. You want to just down to Section 485 and get the full answer.§472. General Provisions. Except as otherwise provided in Sections 478 and 485 and subsections (a) through (d) below, nongame birds and mammals may not be taken. ( a ) The following nongame birds and mammals may be taken at any time of the year and in any number except as prohibited in Chapter 6: English sparrow, starling, coyote, weasels, skunks, opossum, moles and rodents (excluding tree and flying squirrels, and those listed as furbearers, endangered or threatened species). ( d ) American crows (Corvus brachyrhynchos) may be taken only under the provisions of Section 485 and by landowners or tenants, or by persons authorized in writing by such landowners or tenants, when American crows are committing or about to commit depredations upon ornamental or shade trees, agricultural crops, livestock, or wildlife, or when concentrated in such numbers and manner as to constitute a health hazard or other nuisance. Persons authorized by landowners or tenants to take American crows shall keep such written authorization in their possession when taking, transporting or possessing American crows. American crows may be taken only on the lands where depredations are occurring or where they constitute a health hazard or nuisance. If required by Federal regulations, landowners or tenants shall obtain a Federal migratory bird depredation permit before taking any American crows or authorizing any other person to take them. American crows may be taken under the provisions of this subsection only by firearm, bow and arrow, falconry or by toxicants by the Department of Food and Agriculture for the specific purpose of taking depredating crows. Toxicants can be used for taking crows only under the supervision of employees or officers of the Department of Food and Agriculture or federal or county pest control officers or employees acting in their official capacities and possessing a qualified applicator certificate issued pursuant to sections 14151-14155 of the Food and Agriculture Code. Such toxicants must be applied according to their label requirements developed pursuant to sections 6151-6301, Title 3, California Code of Regulations. §485. American Crow.(a) Shotgun, Falconry, and Archery Seasons, and Bag and Possession Limits.(1) Season: The first Saturday in December and extending for 124 consecutive days.(2) Daily Bag and Possession LimitsBag Limit: 24 crows per dayPossession Limit: double the daily bag limit(3) Area: Statewide: see closure area (d) below( b ) Crows may only be taken by shotguns 10 gauge or smaller using shot shells only and incapable of holding more than three shells in the magazine and chamber combined, bow and arrow, and falconry. Crows may not be hunted from aircraft.( c ) No person shall kill or cripple a crow pursuant to this section without making a reasonable effort to retrieve the bird, and retain it in their actual custody at the place where taken or between that place and either: (1) their automobile or principal means of land transportation; or (2) their personal abode or temporary or transient place of lodging; or (3) a migratory bird preservation facility; or (4) a post office; or (5) a common carrier facility.( d ) Crows may not be taken in the following areas:(1) Within the boundaries of the Trinity and Mendocino National Forests south of Highway 36.(2) North and east of a line beginning at the mouth of the Eel River; south along the Eel River to the town of Alton; east on Highway 36 from the town of Alton to Highway 89 west of Chester; south and east on Highways 89 and 395 to Interstate 15 near Hesperia; south on Interstate 15 to Interstate 10; and east on Interstate 10 to the California-Arizona border.( e ) See Section 472(d) for the take of American crows causing depredation.

[Quade]

Crows may not be hunted from aircraft.

Man I really wanted to use my new toy..I guess thats out....

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[ShooterJohn]

No that's illegal! I always wanted to fly in one of those. Have flown in normal C-130's but not those.

[Cranky Farmer]

Those things are amazing.

[ShooterJohn]

Yes they are! The words "death from above" sure fit here.

[CoAMarcus]

So what happens if you drop off your crows at the post office? Do you just walk in and place them on the counter and then walk out?

[ShooterJohn]

I'm not really sure never having done it. In fact I'm sure the Post Office would know what to to. But in the regulations under section 485 ( c ) No person shall kill or cripple a crow pursuant to this section without making a reasonable effort to retrieve the bird, and retain it in their actual custody at the place where taken or between that place and either: (1) their automobile or principal means of land transportation; or (2) their personal abode or temporary or transient place of lodging; or (3) a migratory bird preservation facility; or (4) a post office; or (5) a common carrier facility.I've always wanted to do this so maybe this year is the year. Maybe they just slap a stamp on them and send them to the dead letter office.

[lilwes278]

You know they'd probably consider it a "suspicious package". You'll be elbow-deep into a cavity search with the feds while they're trying to figure out how you made a bomb out of some dead crows! Regardless, let us know how it works out!!!

[ShooterJohn]

You'll be elbow-deep into a cavity search with the feds while they're trying to figure out how you made a bomb out of some dead crows!

[SAGITARUS]

I think the crow will be assigned a Federal TRACKING NO. to be shipped to PETA for proper funeral, and crematory burial service.....RECEPTION with punch and cookies will follow thereafter. May consider to wear proper attire for the occassion. NO SHIRT /NO SHOES admission will be ALLOWED!

[acousticmood]

So can Crows be taken in season with a pellet rifle?

[desertracer]

So according to the regs it looks like we can't shoot crows in the San Bernardino National Forest....right?

[acousticmood]

So according to the regs it looks like we can't shoot crows in the San Bernardino National Forest....right?

Where does it say that in the regs?

[dabob]

Make sure you know the difference between a raven and a crow. Ravens are not legal to shoot.

[desertracer]

Where does it say that in the regs?

( d ) Crows may not be taken in the following areas:(1) Within the boundaries of the Trinity and Mendocino National Forests south of Highway 36.(2) North and east of a line beginning at the mouth of the Eel River; south along the Eel River to the town of Alton; east on Highway 36 from the town of Alton to Highway 89 west of Chester; south and east on Highways 89 and 395 to Interstate 15 near Hesperia; south on Interstate 15 to Interstate 10; and east on Interstate 10 to the California-Arizona border.If I'm not mistaken, the SBNF is in that area....

[acousticmood]

( d ) Crows may not be taken in the following areas:(1) Within the boundaries of the Trinity and Mendocino National Forests south of Highway 36.(2) North and east of a line beginning at the mouth of the Eel River; south along the Eel River to the town of Alton; east on Highway 36 from the town of Alton to Highway 89 west of Chester; south and east on Highways 89 and 395 to Interstate 15 near Hesperia; south on Interstate 15 to Interstate 10; and east on Interstate 10 to the California-Arizona border.If I'm not mistaken, the SBNF is in that area....

Yeah a portion is but if I'm readin that right all of the forest south of the 89/395 and west of the 15 is still open. That's good 'cause I live right near the south border of the forest.

[desertracer]

Yeah a portion is but if I'm readin that right all of the forest south of the 89/395 and west of the 15 is still open. That's good 'cause I live right near the south border of the forest.

I should have been more clear. When I mention the SBNF I am thinking of the bulk of it that is east of the 15. I can't believe I can't crow hunt there. I was looking forward to it as there are a lot of them.