Posted 28 May 2007 - 09:19 PM
Hello Jason,I too, am hooked.I've shot some pretty hot loads in 45 Colt,out of my Freedom Arms Model 83 454 Casull. I wouldn't exactly call them "ForRugers and Contenders ONLY". The recoil, is very stiff. Using 250gr lead.While I don't have any Cimarron copies,mine are Uberti 45 Colt 1873 Catleman,4 3/4" barrel, and a Ruger 45 Colt,4 3/4" or 4.6" barrel. Both from Alquist Arms in Turlock.I've shot the Uberti many times last year. I did make some loads as suggested by a pard,now in Montana.They worked great. However, it was shooting 4" to the left at 21 feet.(Since been corrected)Those loads included some with BP/sub loads. Made a few with 40gr of BO, and either used a 250gr and/or 255gr bullet.The recoil got up there ! But, no where near those loads for the 454 Casull.Fired the Casull. I wondered "What the H### did I LOAD ?". After firing 5 rounds,I went back to the Uberti.Even those loads, I told Frank (retired from either the Sheriff's Dept or Oakdale Irrigation District) "I sure would hate to be in front of these loads !". Recoil was gentile,still got a batch up to over 900 FPS.We were chronographing that day in June.One, went to 1003 FPS. Yes, some loads were in smokeless,too.He said that when you get up to 900 FPS (or a little above),you're getting serious loads that can be used for hunting.And, you're not beating yourself half to death,as with magnums.The secret, if you want to call it that,is to use cast bullets.These offer the best penetration.When he was stationed in Alaska,(50's or 60's-presume.He didn't tell me) he nailed 2 black bears with those lead bullets.When I have a question on the 45 Colt,he's the first one I've asked. Because, this Uberti 1873,is still a blackpowder design.So, I do the loads with 3F GOEX. About 35gr ought to do.With the 40gr, the bullet get distorted from the seating pressure.I have about 200 bullets I cast a few weeks ago.Got them lubed last week.going to try them out, "as cast".These are 255gr.About as soft as I could make them. down the line,I'll have to cast more.Even with American Pioneer Powder,found the cylinder hard to rotate.Since then,I stripped down the Uberti,used brake cleaner to flush out the Mobile 1 oil I used, then relubed with "Traditions WonderLube 1000 Plus".As, what I've been reading, the petroleum based lubes mixes with the residue from the BP/sub powders,turning the oil into a tarry substance.Making things difficult for an otherwise good day.The Ruger 45 Colt,is what I bought for real serious hunting.My loads are yet to be fired.this one, hasn't been shot since I bought it. Bought 2 boxes of 265gr at Golden Arrow,Oakdale.Bullets are Bear Creek,Waterford.If I could,I would like to afford a real Colt.But, with the way things are now,I'm stuck with either the imports or Ruger.Not saying the imports are bad either.My Uberti is very light.Almost forgot it was on my hip.Hope you'll get your Cimarron,or which ever you choose.Keep reading.