New Beretta Xtreme
Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:50 AM
Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:51 AM
I would use a full choke, and #6 shot for ducks.
Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:03 AM
What do you think of messing with the stock length or other adjustments?
Posted 11 December 2012 - 12:59 PM
Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:21 PM
Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:02 AM
The gun came with three different chokes...I've been using the modified with 3 1/2 #6 with not alot of success...Was watcching a DU show and they were talking about setting up a duck target at 35 yds and checking the shot pattern into the target...I bought a case of the shells at half price because the store was going out of business but not sure they are correct for my application....I just got the gun this fall and trying to dial it in with the correct choke and shells so I appreciate your comments and will be careful not to get the butt of the gun wet...Thx Dave
Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:57 AM
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 04:30 PM
Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:18 PM
Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:08 PM
A few weeks back my uncle says to me "you won't jump on a bird that's further than 35 or 40 yards out so why do you shoot those 3.5 inch shells?". The only answer I could come up with was "because they don't make a 4 inch shell.". For ducks I like lots of pellets.
Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:18 PM
Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:15 PM
Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:28 PM
Heck I'm using #4 & 5 lead on pheasant...out of .410s.
30+ yard coyote with one shot of my #7 dove loads. But my lead dove loads move faster than most steel loads
Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:29 PM
Here's an interesting article with data on velocity, crossing target lead, and energy. http://www.clayshoot...ger Pellets.pdf
Take from it what you may. But it shows the relavance of shot size (with the shot material being the same in the comparision) on downrange ballistics. The data I've seen on larger shot sizes above clay competitiion sizes, showed pretty good rationale for larger shot at longer ranges. But there's always a trade on pattern density vs. individual pellet performance. Much more so with my .410 size.
In Yuma for the Sept openner on dove, I was using 3", #6, 11/16 oz @ 1135 fps shells out of my .410 on some of the high flying Euro dove and killing them outright at up to about 60 yrds consistantly. My friend was using 8.5 shot @ 1300 fps and you could see he was connecting with some high flyers but not bringing them down. I finally let him in on my "secret". He switched on the spot and began bringing them down hard.
Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:19 PM
The data I've seen on larger shot sizes above clay competitiion sizes, showed pretty good rationale for larger shot at longer ranges. But there's always a trade on pattern density vs. individual pellet performance. Much more so with my .410 size.
That, and a whole lot more, went into about a two week long decision before I came up with my go-to load. I was looking for one round to do it all for two reasons. One was because I hate changing my Mec once it is dialed in to perfection. The other was because where we hunt you can jump both quail and chukar in the same spot with an occasional fly over dove, and I didn't want to carry multiple loads. The 6's are great for chukar, and will surely reach out there, but can be a little rough on quail or dove. And I will quit hunting before I use 7-1/2's or smaller ever again in this lifetime. I hate watching feathers fly off a bird and watching it fly away, again. That is why I went with a compromise of a slightly larger pellet, but with a tremendous amount of more speed. Almost 1600ps!!! It gives me roughly 50 more pellets than 6's, and only roughly 50 less than 7-1/2's, but with the added speed the 7's hit harder than standard velocity 6's. Much harder than I had ever dreamed of for that matter. And everything I had read about patterns turning to crap with high velocity pellet deformation etc. is a bunch of manure. First three guns tested patterned tighter, and with lighter loads. In other words, my fast 7/8oz 20ga loads (roughly 1450fps) were patterning denser than the standard 1200-1300fps 1oz loads. And the 1-1/8oz 12ga loads I use were patterning denser than the 1-1/4 oz loads. This is why I always say to go ahead and read, but do not take anything as being absolute fact.
It took a little bit of work and playing, but I finally have a nice compromise of speed and size that will take down anything that goes up at half a football field or better (including pheasant and coyotes) but does completely mutilate dove or quail. But you should see what #5 shot at those speeds does to rabbits
Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:24 AM
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