Went over to the DARK (AR) side today
Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:55 PM
I have a couple nice bolt guns too, a Weatherby in 243 Winchester, and a 1953 Mod 70 in 30/06. I love guns, I think we all do! Personally tho, I really like the AR for varmint shooting, it's fast. If I was to do it again tho I'd just get a 700 like we picked out for my Pops. Just as accurate, holds almost as many shells, cheaper, and doesn't look like an assault rifle.
But I'm very pleased with my varmint zapper. I've seen some groups shot with Colts like you bought, and they are nice'n'tight. I think you'll be pleased. If you can get accustomed to the ergonomics then you'll be fine. That was the hardest part for me.
Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:12 PM
Another nice thing is that they're SO EASY to work on.
I suppose that could come in handy, that is IF of course I ever have to do anything to my bolt guns or lever guns to make them keep firing
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 03:32 PM
Thanks, TD & Chuckocaster... and even Bob (Bisley), too, I think?!
I picked up the scope yesterday for it, and even a few more different types of 223 factory ammo... that I need like a hole in the head. lol Still doubt if it will be ready before I go looking for ole wiley again though. But am peddling as fast as I can (to get it ready to go).
Chuck, if this bucket of bolts shoots as good as you say, & what I hear, then I should be happy with it. Then it will be just getting used to the ergonomics thing as you say... IF I can (get used to it)... hopefully!!
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:32 PM
Good luck amigo! Interested to see what load your gun likes. Mine likes both the 40 & 50 gr Vmax.
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Actually, in terms of trajectory, this AR may be a drawback for coyote hunting, with the lower velocity from it's 20" barrel & shooting factory loads, at least starting out. I've likely killed more coyotes that hung up around 300 (+/-) yards, than I have from needing a 2nd or 3rd follow up shot on either a single or multiple coyotes. So with that in mind, it might take a bit for the AR to beat out my 250.
In other words, with both guns sighted in 1" high at 100 yards & my 26" barreled 250 with its 40 gr bullet at a (chrono'd) 4300 fps will only have an approx 3" drop at 300 yards. The 50 gr bullet at a chrono'd 3900+ fps would be approx 4" drop. My "hunch" (pending chrono) would be more than double this bullet drop with my new jam-o-matic. Maybe even 2 1/2 - 3 times more drop??
I honestly don't know how this AR will work out, IF, it even does, but will be interesting how it does, or doesn't work. I'll definitely keep everyone posted on here.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:50 AM
Yours is a great looking, and obviously great shooting AR... The correct balance and weight is one thing I was careful to get, and was probably the number one problem I had with most AR's. This particular model Colt was the first time I had seen, and told the salesman(a friend) I very displeased with him putting me in that situation. LOL I KNEW if I walked out the door without it, I would probably not see one like it again. Soooo, it's like, WHAT CHOICE DID I HAVE ANYHOW? (some truth in that btw) ha! Now, do you forgive me, Bob (Bisley)? LOL
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 03:32 PM
I think many, if not most semi auto owners of any type of weapon(as you say), especially younger folks just want to put the lead in the air, believing they have a better chance of hitting something. Sorta like flock shooting quail with all 3 shells as fast as you can, instead of picking out a single bird. I actually have a (50 yr old) friend that still does that to this day, & he's been hunting for decades.
Come to think of it, I know of at least 3 people that actually shot the same way at deer. One did not use his scope at all, and the others found the deer in their scope & shot with no regard to where the cross hairs were. One of these same individuals actually did that on a herd of bucks. He just saw a bunch of them in the scope and jerked the trigger. The sad part is, one was a true monster of a buck. They all got away of course.
So yeah, I learned the importance of making the first shot count years ago. I also owned at least 3 previous semi auto rifles of various calibers so have some experience with them. Not that I can't still screw up occasionally with coyote fever or absent mindedness, but I'd say the odds are better than good that I won't... very often! ( a disclaimer). LOL
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No pins in a blot lol. I can cycle the bolt fast enough if I have to get off a second shot. Damn I guess I am just to old fshioned. Ed
You would loved to seen the little guy this weekend Ed, I finally started making him use a rifle (bolt action) for rabbits but with very little instruction. I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw him cycle the bolt at a running rabbit three times before finally seeing (and hearing) him hit it. But the best part was that the rifle never left his shoulder and his head never came off the stock. Wish I had filmed it Don't know where he got that from, but it was textbook for sure. Sure couldn't have learned it from me, I can't even remember to do it correctly half the time with either bolt or levers . So even though Frank
Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:39 AM
I want to build one but with that recent bullet button ban Senator Lee tried to pass made me shy away from it..
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