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[ShooterJohn]

And then there are the individuals that you take out hunting and though they appear to work out try to acquire your properties. They show up on the property as if it were there own without permission often bring other friends and getting your coveted land use taken away. Just a pet peeve and something that happens all to often.

[Frank]

and why sometimes why just hunting with my dogs alone, is relaxing, and free of any concerns.

Yep, there is a reason why dogs are called man's BEST friend.

Hunting can sometimes be best going solo... even without a dog. Sometimes!

Yikes, ShooterJohn, that would certainly do it. That is a classic example of the "No Shortage" saying.

[sxshooter]

Regarding game hogs, it's become a big point of humor to most of my friends. Virtually nobody I hunt with, hunts for sustenance. It's all about having a good time. Yet once in a while, someone ends up in a group that is a game hog. With birds it's the guy that shoots a bird and yells "MY BIRD!". I swear it happens. It's just so rediculous that it's funny. So, funny all the rest of my friends will jump at the chance to start yelling "MY BIRD" at every shot heard after some fool yells this. Sometimes one my friends will yell it from hundreds of yards from a shot, just to point out the rediculousness of it all. Most of them would give you their birds if you asked, but would be pissed and say you're an arse if you took them without asking or inappropriately claimed one. There's a true story behind that. The game hog is a baffoon.

One reason it's so funny is that almost all my hunting buddies will pile all the birds together and divide evenly among the hunters. Then the debates really start to fly. Virtually always because some don't want any birds to take home, some just want a couple, etc. etc... but never, never is there anyone that wants more than anyone is willing to give. Sometimes one of the guys will have a special event that he wants the birds for. Everytime, all of us will volunteer our bag for that.

[zippy1970]

Quote from SXS :

Virtually nobody I hunt with, hunts for sustenance. It's all about having a good time. Yet once in a while, someone ends up in a group that is a game hog. With birds it's the guy that shoots a bird and yells "MY BIRD!". I swear it happens. It's just so rediculous that it's funny. So, funny all the rest of my friends will jump at the chance to start yelling "MY BIRD" at every shot heard after some fool yells this. Sometimes one my friends will yell it from hundreds of yards from a shot, just to point out the rediculousness of it all. Most of them would give you their birds if you asked, but would be pissed and say you're an arse if you took them without asking or inappropriately claimed one. There's a true story behind that. The game hog is a baffoon.

I saw that happen the 1 time I was taken Bandtail hunting . It was soo freakn funny .

My friend had one of those people on a Duck hunt I was supposed to go on but could not & he was the filler . They let him take the first limit of Ducks just to get rid of him . Afterwards he told the story of how he " limited " out 1st .

They made him leave .

I am a Jackass & I would not do that .

Andy

[tommybuilt]

Another thing about the new guy, they just went on their first hunt, had a good day, might of shot a bird or 2, didn't do anything stupid, probably feeling pretty good about themselves, until they realize there are 10 hunters with 3 birds each, and as the new guy they get the honor of gutting those 30 birds. If they make it through all that, their probably all right.

[Bisley]

I agree with Bisley, there is this one person that I've hunted with that is as safe as you want someone to be but is the biggest game hog I've ever seen. This person is never satisfied with a partial bag always want to get as many bird as possible and if you let him he'll shoot part of your limit let you carry (ducks) out of the area then want them back. I've hunted with him in a group of us and I flat tell him if he shoots more than his limit he is on his own to get them out of the refuge.

Oh, so you have met my brother
Unfortunately, there is a reason the nephew only wants to hunt with his uncle, and I can't blame him. I get to take him out for a little more patterning and practice tomorrow along with the youngest one who just got his first BB/pellet gun for his 7th birthday

I feel for your friend Frank. I spent half the day in the Ridgecrest Hospital several years back after my dad received a mild lead injection during quail opener. On;y reason for the ER trip was he couldn't stop bleeding from the blood thinners, everything was OK (thank God). And worst of all, he was strongly peppered the next day again (different person and no penetration this time though). But I don't know if you remember the stories about 7 or 8 years ago (I think) when a man was shot at about 15 yards with #6's from a friend in his own hunting party. We shared the same room. 27 pellets he had stuck in him, but luckily no major damage. His X-ray look like a connect-the-dots puzzle! And I still remember the Sheriff saying "I don't care if you want to press charges or not, either I get his name or you join him in jail for hindering an investigation!". He was in the Red Mountain area war zone. I guess now we know why it's called Red Mountain

Now, I think I'll finish this up and call my hunting partner and friend to see how he, the girlfriend, and her kids are all doing and remind him how much I miss living close to him and how much I can't wait to hunt with him again.

[sxshooter]

Tommybuilt,
When a new guy comes into most of the groups of guys I hunt with these days, and there are several that are unrelated, they will often take the time to show the new guy how they clean birds if he is truly a greenhorn. If not a greenhorn, we all just pitch in together without much fuss. Seems to make it a friendly time for everyone. The guys that can, do. The guys that don't know, learn. It ain't all mushy or gushy, but nobody gets pissed either. Hell, my wife cleans birds in SD with the guys, and she never shot one.

[clampdaddy]

Luckily I have never had to part ways with anyone over gun safety but I have over things that just get on my nerves. My biggest pet peave is people that won't shut up in the blind. Last year I had two people in my crow blind that just would not keep quiet. I made a few subtle hints in an attempt to keep things cordial but eventually I had to tell two grown men to either shut the hell up or get out of my blind. Unbelievable.

[tommybuilt]

Hey sideby, we don't make to big of deal out of cleaning birds, everybody pitches in and gets the job done, but it's a pretty good initation for the new guy to make them think they get to do all the gutting. Most of our group grew up in S.D. and have been cleaning pheasants since we were kids. In fact when we lived there my wife and a friend would clean for the out of state hunters, Over 3000 birds in a season. Thats alot of guts.

[StephLuvsHunting]

I can't wait for the first time I get to clean a bird. I learned how to cark Tuna this past month and gotta say, its pretty neat! I mean I know its nothing like cleaning out birds, but to be able to get dirt and clean my kill is a pretty satisfying feeling.

[zippy1970]

As to " cleaning birds " , my GF was all down for that . She did not shoot a single one . For her it's more about " knowledge / learning " how to do it . Thats why I asked a lot here & watched some on youtube .

I saw something about " talking in a blind " . 1 of the people that I hunted with took someone that smoked a cig , whilst the " orginizer " called for Coyotes . Needles to say he was never invited again .

To all that talk about S.Dakota . Do you hunt clubs or wild ? I watched a few shows on Pheasant in SD & some were "clubs " , some were wild . Some almost made it seem like they " draw " in the wilds with the fields they grow to attract the birds . Just wondering .

Andy

[sxshooter]

Andy
I hunt a family friend's farm. This group started about 22-23 years ago now. We all knew each other from flying. So the trips initially started by everyone flying their planes back to SD. There is only 3 of the original group of us still coming counting the organizer who is the cousin of the farm owner. The rest are friends picked along the way or family. The bird are all wild. The land is mostly crops with some fallow fields and sloughs.

The hunting is done in the traditional Midwest group method called a drive where all the hunters line up and walk thru a field. This is not to be confused with an English driven hunt where beaters push thru a field that has a dropoff to a low shooting position where the "guns" are. The "guns" never move in English shoots.

[turkeyman85]

All my buddies always claim my birds when duck hunting....so to prove my point I shot a pin tail with a goose load...heck it was just short of sky busting and I let the main one claim it. When he walked out to get it,he turned around and cussed me out! I laughed and have never hunted with him again. Also hes the same one when turkey hunting pull out a freaking lunchable and and started to eat in the dang blind!!!!

[ShooterJohn]

I hunted with a guy long ago that called every bird I shot at. I finally walked up to "his" bird and shot it a second time and then told him it looked like it was going to run. The next bird I did the same thing again and he got the idea.

[turkeyman85]

haha thats fearking awesome shooter

[clampdaddy]

I love hunting with guys that claim birds. Once their limit is full (of birds that I knocked down) then I get to take my time and pick the birds I want while they sit back and wait for me to finish. Lol!

[TonyS]

Sxs, is that an Ithaca?

[sxshooter]

Tony,
In the picture with the Mearns and the lab? Yeah. Ithaca NID .410.



It's the first .410 NID I bought a few yrs ago. I just bought another just like it. This post on the shotgun forum shows both. http://www.californi...=0

[TonyS]

That is really nice. I love those old sxs and that one is really nice. I am shooting an old Western Arms in 20ga.

[stephen722]

if I fear my dog is in danger we are done, right now! if a fellow hunter has poor gun handleing habits I will try and help them, the first time, but if they don't get it the first day they don't go again! as far as claiming birds I tell them nice shot for as long as I can get away with it! have fun stephen

[Air Rifle Hunter]

Wow, there is allot of great information in this thread. I would definitely agree that finding someone you can hunt with and trust in all ways is hard to find. I am quite diligent about knowing where my barrel is pointed at all times and where the fellow hunting partners are. A couple guys I've been out with seem to wag the gun in all directions like it is a cap gun, not worried about what it is pointed at. That really worries me personally and I've not been out hunting with them since then (especially after I brought it up a few times and they seemed to ignore what I told them).

We all could go on and on about game hogs, loud mouths, jerks, those who are ungrateful for what others do for them and those that are walking saftey hazzards. It is 100% true. Finding a true hunting partner is rare. Sometimes hunting alone is more appealing to me after some of the bad situations I've already gone through in my short hunting career. The only thing I don't like about hunting alone is that much of the area I hunt doesn't get cell service and if something were to happen to me it would be all up to me to get out and to a hospital. That being said, sometimes I'd rather take my chances with the wildlife than another careless hunter...

[Loopdog]

I have taken some youngins out to shoot that have been playing air soft or paint ball and I think they seem to be less respectful of what a weapon is capable of. I now start from the very basics with them.

[docskinner]

I usually will start with a range day. get a good feel for their respect for rules and safety. Watch how they handle their firearms, especially when uncasing them, and how they handle it it that controlled environment. ANd even if they are following the rules, how do they talk about the rules? Their attitude toward teh safety rules can be very telling on how they act once away from the enforced rules. And see if they start dropping the "I know it isn't loaded" line... THAT is my biggest red flag. Really wish more sales people at gun stores would also help teach new comers looking at guns the rules.

May not weed out all unsafe, but it is a pretty good weeder to start before going afield.

reminds me of teaching beginners with a pistol - Always stand right behind them and put my arms out to either side of them - almost all of them after that first shot get excited and want to spin around and forget they are still pointing teh pistol. quick bump on teh arms and they remember, before getting turned to far. and haven't ever had anyone do it twice. That physical contact in teh heightened state I think really sets teh lesson in more than just a verbal nono.