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[tonyd]

Was out for some Coyotes the other night, as I crested the top of the ridge I was on, I saw a Coyote about 200 yards out . Nothing but rolling hills around, no trees, brush or any thing else to hide myself. I slowly lowered to ground level and started calling. He seemed to blend into a patch of tall grass, I never took my eyes away. For 20 minutes, I called on and off, but no reacation. Maybe thats his den? As soon as I got up, so did he, BUSTED, I tryed for another hour but never closed the gap between us. He slowly made his way up over the next set of hills and was out of sight.
Since this was a shotgun only area and our distanse was far to long for a good shot, I never took one. Hopefully I didn't make that Yote any smarter then he currently is.

Any of you ever get the yote that maybe saw you coming?

TonyD

[Shoot-it]

I have been bust a few time by this one old coyote in an almond orchard every time i never fired finally i got the chance and killed it.I think if you give the animal enough time you can fool it again that's just my opinion.

[Frank]

Well, not sure if this is the same or not...

We have had coyotes either run across a dirt road in front of us, or standing out in the field looking at us as we drive by or pull up respectively. So they definitely saw us in other words. As soon as the hunter and coyote could not see each other we would make a short stalk in the coyotes direction and start calling. We have not only slayed several coyotes doing that, but actually pulled in the rest of a pack that we did not know was there when trying for one particular coyote. And I don't want to even talk about our gawd awfull shooting on those dogs, even though I did slay one in that bunch.

One of the most difficult, for me anyhow, is getting a coyote to come in the rest of the way that has busted me (further out) & is chewing me out like nobody's business. Last year I did finally get one to within approx 100 yards, after he busted me at approx 250(?) yds & a series of long verbal back & forth abuse, to which I muffed a somewhat ackward shot... even after I got the dog close.

We've had a few others just hang up, stopped coming in at approx 325 (+/-) yards for unknown reasons to us, but still managed to slay. Not sure if these count though in regards to your question??

Still others that busted us, say those we drove by and got out and called, but ended up calling in another coyote, instead of the one we saw and went after. Again, may be a little different situation however.

One of the oddest stands we had was just last October, where a coyote was really raking a friend & I over the coals with his warning barks, when suddenly 2 nice looking coyotes came charging over the ridge from where the barking dog was, AND while the 3rd dog kept barking at us. These other 2 coyotes were coming in on a distress rabbit sound, when they finally stopped at approx 300 yards out & apparently realized something was wrong from their friends warning barks & headed away from us. Weird stand!

My friend was telling the well known call maker Dan Thompson (just before his death), about this stand, and Dan stated he had NEVER heard of that (exact situation) happening in his life. And we all know what a life long predator hunter and great man he was.

So, yeah, guess one can get at least a few to the call once busted, but just not sure how successful &/or the odds are of that happening. Of course I am talking about "called in" coyotes and not drive bys.

[KNOCKED UP]

Grant and I think we were busted this morning, We walked from his truck to our stand, and set up.We called for twenty minutes or so, and then walked
back to the truck. about thirty five yards behind us we found Coyote squat on the road, It was not there when walked in. Very fresh, and urine on top of it, as if to say, "I busted you two morons"
Tom

[tawnoper]

If you get out in the field enough you're bound to see a lot of things that go against the grain. When it comes to warning barks, howls etc....there is nobody on earth who understands what a coyote is saying, or if they are even saying anything. There is only speculation of what they think they are saying. I will say we've called in countless coyotes when we've had one out barking it's head off. Usually if there is one around there is another. At least for myself, most times I've scared one off or it gets your scent you cannot immediately call that one back, but it might have a buddy nearby that didn't get the memo.

[dabob]

"Any of you ever get the yote that maybe saw you coming?"

We have called in quite a few coyotes over the years that saw us before we started calling but we were low to the ground and moving through rocks or brush when they saw us.

Coyotes, deer and elk can see you but if you are low to the ground quite often they don't know what you are. I hunt on cattle ranches quite a bit and the coyotes just don't seem to be very alarmed when they see my profile when it is 3 foot tall or shorter.

When I learned to sneak over the hill and ridge tops hunched over as low as I could get I saw a lot more animals that were trying to figure out what I was, instead of seeing the animals hauling a$$ the other way.

If the animals see you but don't know what you are, you have not been busted yet.

[Frank]

If you get out in the field enough you're bound to see a lot of things that go against the grain. When it comes to warning barks, howls etc....there is nobody on earth who understands what a coyote is saying, or if they are even saying anything. There is only speculation of what they think they are saying. I will say we've called in countless coyotes when we've had one out barking it's head off.

Well, Ed, you are the only one I have ever heard of, talked to, or read of, that's called in countless (barking) coyotes (implying it a piece of cake). ALL others have said their gig is usually, but not always, up. This includes some very high profile, life long predator hunters that I have spoken with. Not to mention my own semi-long experience at predaor hunting.

Some animal behavior is not all that difficult to understand. Ever own a dog? Did s/he ever talk to you? No, of course not, but we still get the drift of why & what some of their "barks" is telling us... especially over time. To say anything different is absurd! And is no different with coyotes, elephants, dolphins, birds or other critters.

If one does not know what a warning or threatening coyote bark is, then s/he has not been at this too long or is plain making stuff up. Period! And obviously, while no one ever knows exactly what ANY animal is saying, we still get the message, drift, or some understanding on at least a few of their sounds &/or behavior as I stated above. Hunting dogs & their sounds is another example btw.

I hear plenty of coyote howls & barks that I do not understand... But then again, I do recognize "certain" challenge howls and warning barks. Pretty much impossible not to.

[Thumper Dunker]

I have had them see me and come in.Im sure they did not think I was a hunter.Like they had to come in to check me out. If you low like crawling on your knees making your self as small as posible. I think that they think your just some kind of animal.I have crawled pretty close a couple of times.never did it on a barking one . But have gotton close to make a rifle shot on a barker. But most of the time it dose not work,but still worth the try.

[TonyS]

I once sat in front of a hill and made wounded baby jack sounds for a few minutes. When I stopped I felt eyes on me and turned to see a yote mama peak over the hill and yap at me. I got curious as to why she did that so I followed her back. Sure enough, right there was her den not 50 yds from where I sat.

[tawnoper]

Well, Ed, you are the only one I have ever heard of, talked to, or read of, that's called in countless (barking) coyotes (implying it a piece of cake). ALL others have said their gig is usually, but not always, up. This includes some very high profile, life long predator hunters that I have spoken with. Not to mention my own semi-long experience at predaor hunting.

Reading comprehension grade - F

I never said we called in countless "barking coyotes" implying it was a piece of cake. I said I/we have called in lots and lots of coyotes while we had one out barking and howling it's head off somewhere. It may of come from the same direction as the barking coyote or from the opposite direction. Quite common actually.

I realize you take this place and yourself pretty seriously...which is fine by me. But when people are trying to participate in a discussion on "opinion" matters, DO NOT come over the top of them and set them straight. It makes you look bad.

[Frank]

I said I/we have called in lots and lots of coyotes while we had one out barking and howling it's head off somewhere

Coyote vocal comprehension grade = F (obviously does not know the difference)

I realize you take this place and yourself pretty seriously...which is fine by me. But when people are trying to participate in a discussion on "opinion" matters, DO NOT come over the top of them and set them straight. It makes you look bad

NAW... not really.... I leave that to the real "killers" on this site... Know of any, do you???

I'm done with this thread... Enjoy

[Switch]

Cake? I like cake!

[tawnoper]

I'm done with this thread... Enjoy

Yeah, done with this one and off to the next one to spout off about more things you know nothing about. I can hardly wait!

[BCF]

Don't know if it's true, but I tell my boy- if we see them before they see us, we can call them in. If they see us, before we see them, we probably won't.

As for the barking coyotes. I don't feel as bad...Sometime in March, I challenge barked back and forth at a large group of coyotes that were going NUTS. Did it for only about 20 minutes, then I gave up, and tried to stalk them. Never got to them. As soon as they heard me (they did not see me, because we had a small hill in between us), they were GONE. My friend was a little upset that I didn't try for longer to get them to come in. I just had that feeling that there was no way in hell they were coming and our only chance was to try to get above them. They were challenge barking like crazy- and it felt to me like they were telling me "We're staying here- you better stay there!". Anyhow, I still sometimes wonder what I really should have done.

[KNOCKED UP]

What is it Lassy?
Timmy fell in the well at the Johnson's place?

Tom
This is humor, I am not capping on anyone

[ehd]

To answer the original question, no. I would have tried pup distress for 5 minutes and moved on. Sometimes if the parents think there pups are in real danger will be very bold to save their young. And some leave the country, never to come back for the pups. A word on coyote warning barks; usually ruin it for me, as they let every coyote know whats up. If yor hunting a coyote rich area, with lots of young un- educated coyotes, anything is possible. I had a old female coyote on a ranch that new my truck and would light off as soon as i pulled in the gate. She finally fell to a howler looking for love in the wrong place. And a borrowed pick- up.