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#1 Kephers

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:22 AM

Am I reading this correct?

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If this is true, I'm going to buy 2 lowers asap... damnit I hate california

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:49 AM

Check out calguns they will know more.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:44 PM

That senator is simply a Moron/Idiot. Banning the BB won't stop anything. The Fixed Magazine will still allow you to shoot your AR-15, Just not as fast. We all know that.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 02:14 PM

One step at a time... these bed wetting Gay weenies will keep nibbling away at fire arms. Keep writing letters!

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 02:53 PM

What Lang said.
I am going to write Senator Yee right now, This pisses me off.
Senator Yee needs to get off his dead ass and start passing laws
that will get the dope dealing gang bangers in jail where they belong.
I guess it's ok to be in a gang, and terrorise the neighborhoods, but not ok to have my 2nd amendment Rights.
What a bunch of dumb asses.
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 07:34 AM

And this guy has a PH.D.??? Wow just Wow.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 02:53 PM

16 billion dollar deficit, HS students can't read their own diploma, high taxes and regs chasing business' out of state and he has nothing better to do than go after a BB that the DOJ has no problem with.

They can't fix the many problems this state has, so they need something they can show their constituents to justify their pathetic existence.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 07:40 PM

I think the bad guys are going to loose this one. At least I hope so. But in case I'm wrong, what does this mean for the AR15's we already own.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 12:29 PM

If , IF , it were to go through , I believe everything " owned " prior to the bill would be grandfathered in or they will try to get everyone to paper them ( not just a DROS )


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Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:18 PM

I bought a lower Friday. It's my first. Hope this doesn't go through.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 06:22 PM

SHTF... Help us STOP SB 249...

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before it stops you!

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If passed, SB 249 would very literally put tens (if not hundreds) of thousand of Californians at risk of civil and criminal liability - even the outright loss of firearms. However, we don't need to face that reality - with your help, we can engage our entire culture in this battle to protect our Second Amendment rights and STOP SB 249. To get you started, we've created a Take Action web page at the Stop SB 249 campaign website that lists some of the things you can do to stand up, be counted, and get others active in our efforts. I've also included them in this email (below) so you can more easily share this important message with your network.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 08:40 PM

Anybody heard if the NRA has weighed in on this yet? Can the state legally impose a complete ban on something that you bought legally, paid taxes and state DROS fees on, and meets all of the guidelines that they gave to keep them as being classified as assault weapons? Seems like they'd have to allow registration as an option. And if they want to classify and register our bullet button guns as assault weapons then it shouldn't matter if we have the bullet button or a standard mag release button.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 12:10 PM

Yes the NRA has finally sent something out....

I sent out my onslaught of emails today....

Interesting twist fwiw. Many/most of the state representatives will only accept emails from their own constituents. To get around that, type in their address as your own when you fill out the form to submit your email.

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California: Anti-Gun Bills, Including an Attack on Many Semi-Automatic Firearms, to be Heard Early Next Week



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California: Anti-Gun Bills, Including an Attack on Many Semi-Automatic Firearms, to be Heard Early Next Week


Contact your state Legislators immediately!




If you think it is hard to own and possess a semi-automatic firearm in California now, Senate Bill 249, if enacted, would ban the ownership and possession of AR-15s and other magazine-fed semi-automatic firearms that currently use "bullet buttons" or other tools to restrict the removal of the magazine. This anti-gun bill would also authorize civil and criminal penalties for possessing a "conversion kit!"

Senate Bill 249 was amended from an agriculture bill to a serious anti-gun bill to eliminate the ownership and possession of most semi-automatic firearms by law-abiding Californians. SB 249, introduced by state Senator Leland Yee (D-8), would restrict any person from importing, making, selling, loaning, transferring or possessing magazine release components in semi-auto firearms (bullet button, etc).

But this nonsensical bill does not stop there in trying to eliminate semi-automatic firearms in California. SB 249 would make the possession of a "conversion kit" a public nuisance, authorize civil and criminal penalties and require surrendering the conversion kit. According to this bill, a conversion kit is any combination of parts that, when affixed to a firearm with a fixed magazine, are designed and intended to convert that firearm into an “assault weapon” as defined in the bill.

This bill is currently being amended AGAIN and no one is clear on what amended language will ultimately be voted on for SB 249. Regardless of what this bill looks like in the end, SB 249 is a pure anti-gun bill and MUST be OPPOSED.

SB 249 is expected to be heard and voted on next Tuesday, July 3 in the state Assembly Committee on Public Safety. This is also the deadline date for ALL legislation to pass or fail in the state Senate and Assembly policy committees for the 2012 legislative session. The state Assembly Committee on Public Safety needs to hear from ALL of California’s gun owners and sportsmen urging them to OPPOSE SB 249. Contact information for the Committee members can be found here. Senator Yee and his staff also need to hear from California gun owners expressing their outrage that the Senator would suggest such a bill and urge him to pull SB 249 from the agenda. Senator Yee and his staff can be reached at 916-651-4008 and by e-mail here or at Senator.Yee@senate.ca.gov.

California has over 950 firearm laws on its books and criminals do not respect any of them. California Legislators think that adding more laws will reduce criminal activity, but 950 firearm laws later, criminals are still not respecting California law. Please urge the members of the state Assembly Committee on Public Safety to protect the Second Amendment rights of California’s law-abiding gun owners and sportsmen and OPPOSE SB 249.

Also on Tuesday, the state Senate Committee on Public Safety is scheduled to hear two anti-gun bills: Assembly Bill 2549 and Assembly Bill 2460.

AB 2549 would allow only a law enforcement officer who has been honorably retired to request to retain their personally owned and regulated firearms. If an officer should leave for any other reason their personally owned regulated firearms will be confiscated and/or surrendered for disposal. The NRA is opposed to confiscation of firearms and this will only lead to further legislation trying to confiscate firearms for whatever reason anti-gun extremists can think of to use.

AB 2460, introduced by Assemblyman Roger Dickinson (D-9), would ban law enforcement officers from transferring handguns that aren’t on California’s approved “roster” to anyone but law enforcement officers. Currently, California law allows for the transfer of firearms that are not on the approved "roster" to be transferred to law-abiding civilians. These transfers must go through a licensed firearms dealer and are only transferred when the new civilian owner has passed a criminal background check.

Please contact members of the state Senate Committee on Public Safety and urge them to OPPOSE AB 2549 and AB 2460. Committee member contact information can be found here.

On Tuesday, Senate Bill 1315 failed in the state Assembly Committee on Public Safety. Unfortunately, it has been approved to be reconsidered by the same committee and will also be heard next Tuesday, July 3. SB 1315, introduced by anti-gun extremist state Senator Kevin de León (D-22), is just a stepping stone to completely destroying California’s firearm preemption law. Firearm preemption laws are in place to standardize firearm laws across the state. This critical law keeps law-abiding gun owners from being placed in jeopardy of running afoul of local restrictions they don`t even know exist simply because they have crossed from one municipality to another.

Please contact members of the state Assembly Committee on Public Safety and urge them to AGAIN OPPOSE SB 1315. Contact information for the Committee can be found here.

Lastly, the state Assembly Committee on Water, Parks and Wildlife also failed to pass anti-hunting bill, Senate Bill 1221. Unfortunately, this Committee also approved to reconsider this bill next Monday. SB 1221, introduced by state Senator Ted Lieu (D-28), would ban hunting bears and bobcats with dogs. Hunting with dogs is a tradition that continues to be practiced across the country. Many dog breeds with select characteristics for hunting can be traced back for thousands of years. Seventeen states allow bear hunting with dogs. The use of hounds for hunting has never been shown to have an adverse impact on wildlife numbers. Biologists and other wildlife experts determine regulations and bag limits, just as they do with other hunting seasons.

Please contact the members of the state Assembly Committee on Water, Parks and Wildlife and urge them to AGAIN OPPOSE SB 1221. Contact information for the Committee members can be found here.

Don’t forget to forward this alert to your family, friends and fellow gun owners in California asking them to contact members of the above state Assembly and Senate committees, urging them to OPPOSE SB 249, AB 2549, AB 2460, SB 1315 and SB 1221.



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Posted 03 July 2012 - 06:56 AM

Sounds like today is the review and vote of this topic. ...

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:45 PM

IT PASSED

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:21 PM

No way?! Are you serious?
So no more bullet buttons? Wheres the link and what all is going to change?

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 08:32 PM

To clarify; it passed the Public Safety Committee. The next vote will be in the Assembly Appropriations Committee in which it is expected to pass as well.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:02 AM

The wording I've seen is very cloudy. Would the bullet button and a standard push button mag release both be considered "conversion kits" and held to the same standard? Also, if they do end up passing this could we still use a U-15 stock or a Monsterman grip to keep our guns legal?

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:20 PM

Might be able to as long as you have none of the "evil" features

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:28 AM

It is high time we repealed all the past gun laws, and replaced them with CCW's
That would drop the crime by 75%, there will always be 25% of the dumb A$$es
left to get shot.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 09:23 AM

If it passes you will probably have to have the magazine riveted in place so you can't remove it. I have to question the logic of the person who invented the magnetic bullet button release.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 11:21 AM

Many did, and quite politely to the guy that made them and was selling them, who was a total ass to those trying to tell him he was making criminals out of people. Once you attached that magetic button, it becomes, well, ATTACHED to the gun and a part of it - so no longer a separate tool required to remove magazine.

Definitely check out teh sites pointed out above, this goes far beyond just "high cap" and ARs - the last wording could be applied to most anything that had a removable magazine. They are tweaking it - and I think THEY think they have the new "AW" ban they wanted in the first place.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 03:27 PM

More and more I'm wishing that I had just bought an M1A instead.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:00 PM

Heck those are next in line for their effort

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:54 PM

Some of the wording is " any or all simi-automatic rifles with a magazine" which covers more than just the AR's.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:06 AM

This is rediculus. I hope it doesnt pass. I pick up my brand new M&P sport model on Monday... I really dont want to convert it to a feturless rifle, having an actual magazine release would be nice though..

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:42 AM

Write to your congressman, and Senators.
Hopeing dosen't work by it self.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 11:34 AM

Already emailed all of them. Now all I have is hope... lol

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:49 PM

It's going to pass. This is a one party state and they don't like guns. I just wonder how it will effect current owners. I may end up having to disassemble my gun into pieces. Makes me mad.



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Posted 08 August 2012 - 03:57 PM

It will be a lawsuit. It provies for no compensation for loss of property, for one.

And worse case, you take the BB off and throw on a Monsterman Grip for a while.




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