late season chukar tips. I need help!
Posted 22 December 2011 - 08:15 PM
Posted 23 December 2011 - 05:23 PM
Posted 23 December 2011 - 07:08 PM
Apparently the chukar I hunt didn't get that memo . They drive me nuts calling all year long, even on our "quail hunt" trips. Calls work great, if you use them for what they were intended for. They don't necessarily bring the birds to you, but they do work terrific for finding out where they are at (ie by the water, partly up the hill, feeding between the water and the hill).
Chucker call don't waste your time.
Yes and no. All birds tend to fly uphill when flushed near hills. But even if hunted every day, they (like any other animal) still have to come down the hills to feed and water. Then, they head back up the hills much quicker, when hunted frequently. This is again where I always say that knowing where they roost, water, and feed will make your life sooooo much easier. And if it is late morning or early afternoon, and you are not sure if they are watering, feeding, or up the hill, just call a couple times. There is usually one or two that will answer back. That's all you need. Now you know where they are. And while I have never noticed them to have a preference for sunny sides of hills or shaded ones, I will say that in all the years of hunting birds, we have learned that you do not want to be out at sunrise this time of year. Birds are not unlike us, they don't like super cold temps either. We don't usually see them out and moving until at least an hour or so until after the sun has come up and things are a bit warmer. We now sleep in an extra hour or so and catch up to the guys who have been out since sunrise and haven't seen a thing. One of the joys and benefits of years of learning .Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.
Chucker if not pressured will be at all evaluations if they been getting hammered look for them near the top, but almost always on the Sunny side of hills.
Posted 23 December 2011 - 09:09 PM
Posted 24 December 2011 - 07:24 AM
Posted 24 December 2011 - 04:19 PM
Posted 24 December 2011 - 04:39 PM
Yeah, because that's IMPOSSIBLE, right? Just do me a favor please, don't tell the 14 year old that. Especially since this was his first upland bird ever this year! Dogs are great, but they are merely a tool, not a necessity, IF you know what you're doing . Not everyone that hunts wants to be burdened by a dog also. Learn their habits, kill the birds! And just so you know, that rope around my neck is my chukar call By the way, I haven't lost a chukar in 20 years. But then again, I use the right loads, the right gun, and am willing to spend more than 5 minutes to look for a downed bird. I don't limit, but I do find all the chukar I put down, and I almost always come back with some birds, even with no dog. But I was taught the old way also (thank God).
Chucker call REALLY.sorry but thats funny. kind a like hunting them without a dog.
Posted 24 December 2011 - 11:47 PM
Posted 25 December 2011 - 12:21 AM
Posted 25 December 2011 - 09:05 AM
EXACTLY, Bob, exactly... & birds ANSWER calls, giving their positions away.Some folks can't stand hunting quail or chukar etc without a dog, which is fine, but just don't try & "sell" everyone else that. Almost like a gun or car salesman trying to make us believe that what they like or have in stock is what you need. Almost! hmmmm... did you also know that a 270 can't kill pig or deer? I heard or read that somewhere & thought I would share.
Dogs are great, but they are merely a tool, not a necessity, IF you know what you're doing . Not everyone that hunts wants to be burdened by a dog also. Learn their habits, kill the birds!
Posted 25 December 2011 - 04:25 PM
I thought you already knew that. It's on the internet, so it must be true Please do me a favor though, don't tell my three cousins (11-18) that have been taking elk every year in Meeker with a .270, I wouldn't want to hurt their feelings If I can find it again, there is a great (but very long) write up by a man who owns a ranch that hunts pigs in Texas. He proceeds to explain the difference about premium bullets that expand and and usually pass through, and standard bullets that can come apart but still kill as effectively (especially in situations where there are structures or livestock nearby). But in his testing, he takes the hide off a freshly skinned 200lb pig, sets it across a sheet of plywood, and proceeds to shoot through the shoulder armor with a .22lr. Don't get me wrong, he is not promoting hunting with a rimfire, he is just merely trying to show that neither pigs (nor their thickest shoulder armor) are bullet-proof, and you don't need a .338 to kill pigs, and even .22lr's are deadly to animals and humans alike. I personally think it should be a mandatory watching in the hunter safety course. If for nothing else just to show all new folks that even rimfires aren't toys. , I'll get off my soap box too. Merry Christmas to all, and Happy hunting in the new year.
hmmmm... did you also know that a 270 can't kill pig or deer? I heard or read that somewhere & thought I would share.
Posted 26 December 2011 - 08:11 AM
Posted 27 December 2011 - 08:50 AM
That is something! You must have the nose of a bloodhound. Unfortunately, through the years I've lost a few. Same as quail. IMO that is where a dog is invaluable...finding birds that that are dead, but don't know it.
By the way, I haven't lost a chukar in 20 years. But then again, I use the right loads, the right gun, and am willing to spend more than 5 minutes to look for a downed bird.
Posted 27 December 2011 - 02:00 PM
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