Shorten Savage .223 22" to 16.25"?
Posted 07 April 2011 - 10:55 AM
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Posted 07 April 2011 - 04:56 PM
That's true... I know some police that use them. Military, or military type rifles are real popular among many hunters today, which is fine, but often times are not the best choice in hunting situations. Especially those with short barrels. You stated you wanted your "varmint" rifle to handle 300 yard shots. Definitely do-able with a snub nosed rifle, but also definitely more difficult.I too will take 12% of anything. Interest at the bank, pay raise, whatever. Also, like I said the velocity loss could be much higher. I've gotten higher velocity losses in just 4" of barrel reduction, but in somewhat hotter rounds however. And, just how far does one carry this reduction in performance? Until we're shooting 30-30's again?Anyway, if a shorter barrel is what you want, then by all means go for it. All kinds of ways to play this game.Frank
I know 16" barrels aren't uncommon on ARs, etc...?
Posted 07 April 2011 - 06:56 PM
Posted 07 April 2011 - 08:29 PM
Heh heh, I know. I run a machine and welding shop, I have a pretty good idea how much metal weighs. But a little off the end would help, there's a leverage factor. It's hanging out there past the foregrip where you hold it. I'm thinking handier as far as size, in and out of the vehicle, which I do quite a bit, much smaller rifle case, fits in vehicle easier. I mostly shoot prone-bipod so holding steady isn't a big deal.
There's a couple of guys on this forum that have done this to there guns and seem to like it but it does seem pointless as the weight you would save is almost nothing. Go to Home Depot and get a piece of 1/2" rebar and cut it to 6" and that is probably close to the weight you would be cutting off.
Posted 07 April 2011 - 08:31 PM
Please expound...why? I can't see how 200fps is going to make much difference if I'm shooting inside MPBR, 250 yards or so.
Nooooooo. You'll be saying if you do this.
Posted 07 April 2011 - 09:19 PM
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 06:14 AM
Now that's a good point. I don't like hop/loss of sight picture. For that matter, I think I've changed my mind. I'm going to put a 26" bull barrel on it., ha ha!
Well, just more of the same of what you've already heard. I think it'll shoot harsh with more recoil, you'll have more hop with your bipod which will make a follow-up shot harder, more loss of sight picture with the shot, may lose accuracy because your barrel harmonics will change and your twist rate may not be optimal for your barrel length, you'll have difficulty selling it if you ever decide to, loss of fps means loss of fpe which may matter if you later decide you want or need to take longer shots on bigger game, not much weight savings, not much gain in maneuverability since a 22" sporter barrel isn't really very awkward to handle, that sort of thing. (Yeah, I know, Braz. Run-on sentence. But it was fun.) I'm just thinking eventually you'll wish you hadn't cut it and want your rifle back the way it was. Also, you know, AR-15's are gas guns with a recoil spring. So a 16" barrel AR will feel smoother than a bolt action would of similar length. So I don't think it's a fair comparison upon which to base a decision to cut your barrel. On the other hand, what do I know? Maybe you'll end up with a tack driver and start a whole new trend in short sporter barreled bolt rifles and we'll read all about it in next month's Rifle Magazine.
Posted 08 April 2011 - 07:14 AM
Now T H A T ' S what I'm talking about!
I think I've changed my mind. I'm going to put a 26" bull barrel on it., ha ha!
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