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#31 whatjeffhunts

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 10:09 AM

.243 and you can use it for everything in California from squires to bear and everything in between.

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 09:14 PM

One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375 :good:

Good caliber.Three problems if you're shooting a thousand acres of alfalfa crawling with ground squirrels.1. $ to buy or load ammo 2. Truck to haul ammo3. $ for shoulder replacement. :good:

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 09:02 AM

Jeff,What is the bag limit on 'squires'? :sport037fn4:

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 10:57 AM

Another vote for .243. I have a Tikka T3 lite also...love it!
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 06:26 PM

.243, .30-06.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 08:19 AM

I was just looking at a Mossberg 243 at Sports Authority for $349. Very nice looking rifle. Sports Authority also has Thompson Ventures for sale for $399 right now. MOA gun for $399 aint to bad.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 07:38 PM

If you think you'd like to know you are going to knock down what you are shooting at, go look at Marlin X series. Great gun for a decent price.

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 09:07 AM

yoteblaster can you please shoot me a call or message ?

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 10:07 AM

The one gun concept is very possible for California and could be considered a good idea. But where is the fun in having one gun????!!!!! Start general, and build your way up a rifle a year. Savages, Thompsons, Mossburgs, 770's can all be found for under 350 and all usually include a scope. If you settle for one, you could even say your letting the liberal gun haters win by a one gun policy... What are we China with children... No sir, these are our guns.... Without them people like China could take our children away... Did I just make a comparison which pointed to guns being more important then children?.... lol, funny how I ended up there....

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 10:29 AM

If cost is a factor, consider the following:223 costs 20 cents a round.Everything else starts at $1 per round if you don't reload.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 06:54 AM

Can you take a deer with a .223?

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 07:00 AM

Can you take a deer with a .223?

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 07:34 AM

In Kalifornia can you use a .22 center fire but not a rimfire on deer?

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 07:54 AM

22 caliber center fire rounds on deer?Ethically ... probably not. Legally .... HELL YES. (just make sure you can consistently put the bullet where you want it)I believe the regulations only stipulates that big game be taken with a center firing cartridge. I believe there is a guy on one of the forums hunting deer and hog in CA using a 22 Hornet, have been doing it for years.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 08:30 AM

I dunno either.. I have researched it some and it seems you need a bullet that can penetrate like the Barnes TSX 62 gr which can have a muzzle velocity of 3000 fps... not sure what kind of range it would be good for, possibly up to 150 yards

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 09:01 AM

I believe the regulations only stipulates that big game be taken with a center firing cartridge.

Yep, I stand corrected... Again! lol Not sure what I was thinking... I did not read the entire section on this issue, but did see the above statement in it.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 08:35 PM

I've never taken a deer with a fast .22 but I've been thinking about it. Read what P.O. Ackley wrote about hunting deer with a .220 swift. In one of his books a few guys authored chapters about hunting medium game up to the size of wild borrows with fast .22s and the results were pretty impressive. The trophy bonded bear claw sounds a lot like the old Ackley bullet that was used back in the day. A solid shank with a lead core in the nose. I'd like to try some in my 22-250
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Posted 16 June 2011 - 09:20 PM

I don't know exactly why, but my uncle who's a State Trooper and very avid hunter in CO tells me that he and the DOW men find that poachers almost always us fast .22 center fires (.22-250, 220 Swift). Go figure.In light of recent incidents (thin skins) guess I better say that NO!, I am not calling anyone here a poacher :good: . Just stating a weird fact.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 10:01 PM

Of the ones you identified I would go with with either the .270 or the .30-06 and use the Accelerator round for ground hogs, etc.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 01:55 PM

I willl vote for the 270.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 07:51 PM

I don't know exactly why, but my uncle who's a State Trooper and very avid hunter in CO tells me that he and the DOW men find that poachers almost always us fast .22 center fires (.22-250, 220 Swift). Go figure.

Hmm, makes me wonder if they carry a fast .22 so they can pass as predator hunters and then do their dirty deeds when they think theres nobody around to catch them.
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Posted 17 June 2011 - 11:06 PM

We had two thoughts, that being exactly one of them. The other thought was that it was just an act of opportunity also. Like they were actually predator hunting, and just happened to see deer or elk, and decided to poach. I will say this though, while not my personal preference, them little fast .22's DO seem to work well.




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