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#1 hawker

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 05:18 PM

Last week up in Davis the goshawk caught a cottontail that had a parasite I haven't seen before. In jackrabbits I've seen tapeworm eggs, which are a large (up to golf ball sized) clear fluid sac containing many small (rice grain sized) white eggs. This cottontail had a multitude of small (about corn nut sized) fluid sacs, each containing a single egg about the size of of 2 rice grains. Several sacs were attached in singles to the underside of the liver and there were a bunch in the lower gut area. Needless to say, it went to the trash, but I'm curious if anyone here knows what those are. Side note, the rabbit also had 2 full grown botfly larvae in its neck.

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 05:23 PM

So does that mean when a coyote, or any predator, eats that bunny that the worm will get transfer to the predator?

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 05:27 PM

I think the transfer method for worms tends to be feces containing eggs. Digestive fluids are probably powerful enough to kill eggs.Edit: However, this and this says I'm wrong. So just as well I didn't give some nice yote an infection... :signs165xk:

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 08:17 PM

If I remember my homework correctly, mange on coyotes are parasites or aka; worms and can easily be transfered to humans through the skin or by handling in other words. And they CAN kill a human, although very rare. Just as you noticed in the rabbit, there are different types of parasites & thus also different types of mange. Some deadlier than others.I personally won't ever touch a mangy coyote & cringe whenever I see hunters holding one up. I also love it when a hunter holding up a mangy coyote with BARE hands states s/he knows what they're doing. Yeah right, of course they do! :signs165xk: You did good in tossing it!Frank

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:04 PM

So skinning one out for the barbie is a bad idea. Mange is from a mite. But people can get it also and you can take it home to your pets. Most mangy coyotes have secondary infections also you can get. Im itching just thinking about this stuff.In colder places mange kills them-freez them .But here in the central vally they can hang on for years. Im going to go take a real hot shower now and dump alcohal all over me . Another thing all coyote meat should be cooked well. Makes you want to try some of that PCH jerky ;)
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 09:25 PM

Another thing all coyote meat should be cooked well. Makes you want to try some of that PCH jerky :smiley-innocent-halo-yellow:

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 06:19 PM

I saw the same thing in a cottontail i shot! I didn't eat him either but i havent had any luck figuring out what it is.

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 10:50 PM

You do not need to cook it.. Eat it raw., So you lose some hair and the top layer of skin.Attached File  i_got_mainge.jpg   66.08K   30 downloads
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 08:07 AM

I can't believe you tossed out the backcountry caviar. Toss the eggs in a pan, sautee them with a little butter, garlic, and onions, and you are good to go... :signgreatreport3kg: :ph34r: :ninja:

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 03:21 PM

Man, that must have been really awkward taking a picture of yaself at that angle ;)I don't even wanna ask what that was

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 03:45 PM

Too much PCH jerky.
You can hop but you can't hide. Yahi Bowmen. Its not how far you can shoot but how close to the game you get when you shoot. Sights we don't need any sights. Why waist time reloading when I can be making arrows.

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Posted 25 November 2010 - 08:42 AM

Another thing all coyote meat should be cooked well. :signs165xk:

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Posted 04 January 2011 - 12:09 PM

I think the transfer method for worms tends to be feces containing eggs. Digestive fluids are probably powerful enough to kill eggs.

I know that you said you are wrong but I just wanted to share some info that I have read before on parasites. I thought the same thing about stomach acid being powerful enough to kill parasites but in many cases its not. Some parasites actually become active after being ingested, some require exposure to stomach acid in order to begin its life cycle. The stomach acid and digestive fluids stimulate the dormant parasites (worms) or eggs to wake up, or begin its life cycle. Its pretty nasty and scary thats why its better to cook and order all your meat well done to ensure that the meat is safe to eat.
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Posted 04 January 2011 - 04:33 PM

I can't believe you tossed out the backcountry caviar. Toss the eggs in a pan, sautee them with a little butter, garlic, and onions, and you are good to go...

I can't believe tossing that out either...I cooked up a batch of them cottontails just the other day with the same noted pustules. They were kind of weepy and all & also had some worms and botflie larvae and feces present so I naturally made a gravy out of them rather than fried. Some of the pus can be seen sticking on the sides of the skillet. After boiling for a few minutes, like you; I figure everything is Good to Go. All in all...a pretty tasty meal with egg toppersPosted Image

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Posted 04 January 2011 - 04:41 PM

YUUUUUMMMMMM! ;)

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Posted 04 January 2011 - 05:12 PM

Nice puss gravvvvvy ;) If it don't kill ya, it makes you stronger. Mike will probably out live all of us.

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Posted 04 January 2011 - 07:52 PM

:drool: :drool: :puke:
You can hop but you can't hide. Yahi Bowmen. Its not how far you can shoot but how close to the game you get when you shoot. Sights we don't need any sights. Why waist time reloading when I can be making arrows.




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