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[LASC]

A friend of mine sent me this today. I thought I'd share it with ya'll. The downloaded pictures are of a man who works for the US Forest Service in Alaska and his trophy bear (killed in self defense.)He was out deer hunting last week when a large grizzly bear charged him from about 50 yards away. The guy emptied his 7mm Magnum semi-automatic rifle into the bear and it dropped a few feet from him. The big bear was still alive so he reloaded and shot it several times in the head. The bear was just over one thousand six hundred pounds. It stood 12' 6" high at the shoulder, 14' to the top of his head. It's the largest grizzly bear ever recorded in the world. Of course, the Alaska Fish and Wildlife Commission did not let him keep it as a trophy, but the bear will be stuffed and mounted, and placed on display at the Anchorage airport to remind tourists of the risks involved when in the wild. Based on the contents of the bears stomach, the Fish and Wildlife Commission established the bear had killed at least two humans in the past 72 hours including a missing hiker.The US Forest Service, backtracking from where the bear had originated, found the hiker's 38-caliber pistol emptied. Not far from the pistol were the remains of the hiker. The other body has not been found. Although the hiker fired six shots and managed to hit the grizzly with four shots (the Service ultimately found four 38 caliber slugs along with twelve 7mm slugs inside the bear's dead body), it only wounded the bear and probably angered it immensely. The bear killed the hiker an estimated two days prior to the bear's own death by the gun of the Forest Service worker.Think about this:If you are an average size man; You would be level with the bear's navel when he stood upright. The bear would look you in the eye when it walked on all fours! To give additional perspective, consider that this particular bear, standing on its hind legs, could walk up to an average single story house and look over the roof, or walk up to a two story house and look in the bedroom windows.

[LASC]

There is a 3rd picture at this link http://mountainsurvi...bearattack.html But it shows the remains of the hiker, and it is disturbing. So, view at your own discretion.

[Mayhem]

stupid question. But considering how many 7mm rounds dumped into that bear obvoisly a pistol even 500 S&W is not a good back up. Would a HD 12ga supermag shotgun using heavy supermag slugs have any chance of stopping something like that under 50 yards? Cuase I wouldn't even trust my 300 win mag to stop something like that fast enough and since its bolt action its not going to fire fast enough accurately.P.S. Now I know why my coisin carries a 338 UM a 12 ga and a 454! and thats just to go fishing! he used to joke the 454 was for a fast painless suicide.

[ShooterJohn]

A 12ga shooting slugs would be a good choice. I wouldn't go out without my .375 H&H though. It's hard to fish and hike with that rifle in my hand all of the time. Maybe I would need a gun bearer? Or a bear gunner whatever it takes.

[Mayhem]

A 12ga shooting slugs would be a good choice. I wouldn't go out without my .375 H&H though. It's hard to fish and hike with that rifle in my hand all of the time. Maybe I would need a gun bearer? Or a bear gunner whatever it takes.

And the Damn libs say there is no reason for .50 bmg.The idea behing the 12 ga supermag was either a short HD fast pump or auto (probably pump) with a collapsable pistol grip stock, that can get around 3 slugs into the bear before he closes the distance. thats assuming you have at least 50 yards to start with.

[Shoot-it]

That story has been out for a long time.has been all over the wed the dead man has nothing too do with the bear.There is a site that investigates stories and finds the facts I can't remember the site ,but it said the bear was not a man killer.

[LASC]

If that guy didnt have a semi auto 7mm mag with 12 rounds in it, i think the bear would have been properly charged and convicted with murder.

[stevowpappas]

http://www.snopes.co...ls/bearhunt.aspAs this account demonstrates, some of the details in the text that now accompanies these photographs is incorrect: Ted Winnen, who shot the bear, was an airman with the U.S. Air Force, not a Forest Service employee. The bear was large, but not a "world record 12 feet 6 inches high at the shoulder" and weighing "over one thousand six hundred pounds." The ursine bagged by Mr. Winnen measured 10 feet, 6 inches from nose to tail and its weight was estimated at between 1,000 to 1,200 pounds ? an extraordinarily large bear for the Prince William Sound area (about double the average size), but not a world record. The bear was coming towards Winnen and his hunting partner from about 10 yards away, but nobody knows for sure whether it was "charging them." According to the two hunters, the bear may not even have been aware of their presence. Winnen bagged the bear with a .338-caliber Winchester Magnum, not a "7mm Mag Semi-auto." In 2003 another photograph began to be circulated in conjunction with the pictures shown above, purportedly showing a human victim who was the bear's "last meal": Although this is presumably a genuine photograph of human remains gnawed by one or more animals, it has nothing to do with the bear pictured above. This photograph comes from a completely different source and was only tacked on as an addendum to the bear story after both had been circulating independently for over a year. The bear shot by Ted Winnen was not known to have killed any humans.

[Thumper Dunker]

I new that I think we talked about that picture before.

[ShooterJohn]

I new that I think we talked about that picture before.

I think it was on the old forum thumper.

[Stiff Neck]

Yeah but these kinds of stories just get better with time...