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[Single Six]

Been workin at 100 and messed around a little at 200 at the range. 200 is hard to see with the 9x scope that came on my Savage Edge. I will probably stay inside 200 yds, bein' a noob and all...sound right?

[Braz]

I like to sight in 1 1/2" - 2" high at 100 yards. That takes it out to about 250 by just putting the cross hairs on the animal.

[Single Six]

...and then shoot a bit low @ 100 I presume? I'll will set up like that and try it out at the range. Thanks.

[Colin]

I sight in 2 inches high at 100 yards...that way I hold on hair out to 250 yards. If 100 yards or closer, I hold on the bottom 1/2 of the coyote and beyond 220+- yards I hold on the top 1/2 of the body. Takes a lot of the guess work out of it for me...

[tawnoper]

1" - 1.5" high at a hundred will put you on the mark for 95% of called critters.

[Old timer]

There you go.

[lilgator]

I don't even go out to a hundred i sight in at 40yards 11/2 high its good out to 300 bang flop just put the cross hairs on the back and it's all over.

[JimT.]

Right on at 100 yards because most of your shots will be inside 100 yards!

[Baxter]

What he said,^.

[CHIN SQUIRREL]

If you really want to get down to the nitty gritty of things, pick up a copy of Ron Spomer's book, "Predator Hunting". Read up on Chapter 6, specifically the part on Maximum Point Blank Range. He describes in great detail how and why to sight your rifle in at certain distances. In my opinion, that chapter alone was worth the fifteen bucks that I paid for the book. I hope that it helps.

[fakawee]

Zero at a 100yds and just hold a little high if it's out more than that. You didn't mention what grain bullet you're shooting so I'm assuming it's 50-55 grains. Now if you were shooting 40 grains, zero your scope for 150yds and you should be good to 300yds by holding crosshairs at the spine. Key is to practice, practice, practice so you know your distances at a glance because most times, you won't have a chance to use a range finder on your coyote. Good luck and may you have many kills!

[tawnoper]

I can see why a self proclaimed "noob" could get confused asking questions.

[Single Six]

Me too, but I'm smarter than your average rock, so I'm doin' OK.

[tawnoper]

[BC9696]

Me too, but I'm smarter than your average rock, so I'm doin' OK.

Is that 9X a Simmons? That's what came on my Savage 22-250...total junk. I replaced it.

[Single Six]

Bushnell. 3-9 I think. I hit stuff with it...if/when I breaks I'll replace it I reckon, unless I decide I want more magnification which is looking kinda likely. Heck I haven't even messed with parallax or anything yet.

[milkman]

if you want a really cool scope for the money, check out the simmons whitetail...it pretty cool..glenn

[fakawee]

Is that 9X a Simmons? That's what came on my Savage 22-250...total junk. I replaced it.

It's the eye behind the scope that can't see straight Bruce! I used to hunt with this old gentleman down in the desert who used his old 30 carbine and an equally old Redfield 3x9 scope that he mounted in 1971. I looked thru that scope several times and asked him if he was willing to change it out. It was so cloudy and hazy. He said "Why, I look thru the scope, put the crosshairs on the coyote and squeeze off a round. It works for me!" The old man died this past March and was buried with that rifle. His widow later showed me pictures of him in Korea with the same rifle and showed me notes he kept on his coyote kills. In his lifetime, he's killed 289 coyotes, 71 bobcats and 44 foxes with this same rifle and scope combo. Nothing wrong with scopes today. Just depends on what you're willing to use. Some people can't afford top end Nikon, Bushnell, Leopold, NightForce etc.... scopes.

[dabob]

For coyotes I have my rifles sighted in at 1" high at 100 yards.For deer hunting, 3" high at 100 yards.

[Single Six]

Thanks all. More on MPBR. I'm visual, I wanted to SEE the trajectory...so I did an image search for .223 trajectory. 1.85" high @ 100yd = 0 @ 250yd = aim a little low if it's close, a little high if it's far. Next Q. I have a 9 power scope...it seems a bit weak for a 4" kill zone @ 200...?

[Desert Fox]

No need to compensate for close or long shot if you know your MPBR. Your example above is good up to 280 yards. Just aim dead on!For predator calling rifle, the 9 Power is plenty enough. A wide field of view is a must for fast target acquisition. Remember, the higher the magnification the narrower the field of view.

[CHIN SQUIRREL]

That chapter will tell you how to find your rifle's MPBR. The whole idea behind MPBR is to not have to hold your point of aim high or low to hit your target. Just put the crosshairs where you normally would on the animal and you will strike the vitals. It basically takes the guesswork out of calling your shot. If you like, I can send you some more information on this subject.

[tawnoper]

Not to beat a dead horse (over and over lol) ...but, MPBR works by taking advantage of a particular rifles trajectory. So does sighting in the same rifle to 1" or 2" high at a hundred. JMO...but if you do use a PBR calculator to sight in your rifle, use a number that makes sense like 4". Again JMO but I see people using 6" and that really is way too much for coyotes and such. FWIW.

[Shoot-it]

I got my 223 dead on at 100. I like it set like that for squirrel blasting and coyote calling.For those real long one I just hold a little over shoulder so I see light.

[Desert Fox]

That chapter will tell you how to find your rifle's MPBR. The whole idea behind MPBR is to not have to hold your point of aim high or low to hit your target. Just put the crosshairs where you normally would on the animal and you will strike the vitals. It basically takes the guesswork out of calling your shot. If you like, I can send you some more information on this subject.

This can easily be done if you have access to ballistic computer.

[macscal]

Zero @100yds. Practice at the distances you will be shooting. Most ammo manufacturers have available the ballictic charts(bullet drop) for their ammo...

[Single Six]

I've got the idea of how it works now. I'm going to the range and putting up targets @ 100, 150, and 200 cuz I wanna SEE where my gun hits with my ammo.

[macscal]

There you go.....Thats the right way to do it. Good Luck!!!

[Single Six]

There you go.....Thats the right way to do it. Good Luck!!!

Calculations are nice for getting in the ballpark but the only way to know for sure is to do it. Say we have a 4" target @ 200...it's a little downhill, the weather is hot and dry, I don't hold perfectly steady, I switch ammo, or the ammo isn't super accurate, my rifle shoots a little faster or slower than the calc...any combination of a couple "small" errors means a miss or a wounded coyote.

[Single Six]

Hmm...shot at 100, 150, 200. 2" bullseye. Things look pretty good (inside 4") @ 100, 150, fall apart at 200, probably me. Course it was hot, heat waves, little breeze, forgot to put ribbons up.