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#1 tonyd

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 08:17 AM

(a) Shotguns 10 gauge or smaller using shot shells only and incapable of holding more than three shells in the magazine and chamber combined. If a plug is used to reduce the capacity of a magazine to fulfill the requirements of this section, the plug must be of one piece construction incapable of removal without disassembling the gun; This is the DFG rule for the shotgun plug, I use a 1/4" dowel the correct length in the tube. As far as disassembling the gun, my Mossberg 12ga, you jusy need to unscrew the tube cap, slide it over and insert the dowel. Help me out on this one, Am I legal or not?TonyD

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 09:13 AM

I think you are fine as long as it restricts the magazine to only two shells and as you stated you need to take the gun apart to remove the plug.

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 09:17 AM

So your dowel just rattles around in the tube when the gun is empty? All the plugs I've seen have a hat section that is captured by the magazine spring to keep it in place against the retaining plug. I think technically you are in compliance, since to remove it you have to unscrew the tube cap - which constitutes "disassembly". I used the largest dowel that would fit inside the magazine spring without binding it, and put a chamfer on the leading edge so the spring did not catch on an edge. I lost a plug in the field while rabbit hunting quite a few years back - a reload opened up in the magazine tube, jamming up the whole assembly (the shell case had seen one too many reloading sessions). When I unscrewed the tube cap the compressed spring shot the plug, retaining plug and tube cap out into the brush, followed by the spring itself! I managed to find everything except the plug - it probably launched into the next county...

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 09:38 AM

I haven't seen any after market items for this purpose, any ideas?

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 09:56 AM

just use dowel I have had one in my rem. over 25 years no problem, just a 3/8 dowel no ends no chamfers just a piece of rod, thousands of rounds and i never heard it rattle

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 10:18 AM

Mossberg 500's just use a wood dowel. I cut a 3/8" dowel from Walmart to make mine. Works fine and doesn't rattle.RA

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 10:59 AM

Same here. Just have a 3/8 Aluminum dowel.

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 04:52 PM

A wood pencil will also work for a plug.
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 05:07 PM

Hear ya go......http://www.midwayusa...ctnumber=853591

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 05:11 PM

I haven't seen any after market items for this purpose, any ideas?

Every plug I've seen is larger on one end and is held in place by the magazine spring. It's really not hard to make one but since you asked for a suggestion I suggest you try Brownell's or call Mossberg for a replacement.As far as being in compliance you are. In all the years I've hunted birds I've been checked only once. I'm always in compliance, tho.
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 10:44 PM

Hear ya go......http://www.midwayusa...ctnumber=853591

I just seen some of those at Bass Pro Shop. My only concern is that those might be to small for some shotguns and may not be as universal as one may think. Personally I like the cut to length ones that Brownells sells.Hell I've seen everything from twigs to spent shotgun hulls used as plugs in the past. Whatever works to keep you in the right, use it.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 08:29 AM

Thanks for the input, The dowel works fine for me and it does not rattle, I was more concerned about being nailed with a ticket for not having something that was approved. The whole plug issue seems to be more for giving out tickets then anything else. What is the real reason for it?? Tonyd

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 01:16 PM

I lost my plug and didn't realize till the night before, so I just put a chopstick in there and it works just fine.

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 05:15 AM

I haven't seen any after market items for this purpose, any ideas?

put 2 o-ring about 1" up on both endsof the wood dowel. This will take the rattle out
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 06:48 PM

I am sure you all know but if you are hunting coyotes with your shotgun there is no restriction on shell capacity

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 07:09 PM

Or take a wood dowel, pencil, piece of tule, etc. Wrap it in electrical tape to take the rattle out or wrap a lot of it to prevent it from falling out with the cap off.Don't think I've ever been checked since I was a kid hunting on the refuge.
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 07:29 AM

I remember way back in the day they used to make a hallow plug that could carry a choke or two.
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 08:47 AM

I am sure you all know but if you are hunting coyotes with your shotgun there is no restriction on shell capacity

I must have missed that in the DFG regs, do you know where that is written down??

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 11:30 AM

Good info here. The hunting instructor/fish and game warden At Bass pro shops uses wooden dowels on his gauge. So you should be ok. Im hoping someone can help me out I lost my plug cause i didnt hunt so i removed and lost it several years ago. So can some one get me a measurement on their stock plug. I have a Remington 870 express that can take 2 3/4 to 3in. I need to know the thickness and lenght to cut one out of wood.

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 01:23 AM

So how do THESE affect the rules at only 1 3/4"? :smiley_kewlpics: http://www.gunbroker...?Item=157764604

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 07:42 PM

Three rounds is three rounds. 1.75" or 3.5". Karl
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Posted 19 February 2010 - 07:44 PM

Good info here. The hunting instructor/fish and game warden At Bass pro shops uses wooden dowels on his gauge. So you should be ok. Im hoping someone can help me out I lost my plug cause i didnt hunt so i removed and lost it several years ago. So can some one get me a measurement on their stock plug. I have a Remington 870 express that can take 2 3/4 to 3in. I need to know the thickness and lenght to cut one out of wood.

Trial and error. Start out a little long then see if two rounds fit. If not shorten it a little then try again.Karl
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