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#1 weber

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 07:05 AM

The photo was taken in the Julian area . And no suprise ther were no deer on the memory card . What makes it worse is this cam is about 100 feet from the front door of my cabin .

Already this year when I was going out to Yuma for the Dove opener we had a small lion cross the freeway right in front of us just after the border patrol checkpoint before Imperial .

I always go archery hunting by myself and probably walk by way more lions than I even want to think about !

Curious any San Diego hunters got lion tales ?

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 10:35 AM

The Julian area, and more specifically Lake Cuyamaca (& park) just to the south, had more people attacked &/or killed by mtn lions than anywhere else in the state.

This was not that long ago, just can't recall exactly when, but it may also have been the #1 area of mt lion attacks for 2 or 3 years straight. But not sure on the later??

Anyway, yes, that area has a BIG mtn lion population that's definitely having a (negative) impact on the deer there. Start hunting there with a partner, carry a handgun & shovel... and some predator calls, and have fun :smiley-innocent-halo-yellow:

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 11:08 AM

I over heard a story at the local archery shop in riverside that a turkey hunter was set up on some birds and was attacked. I guess he was sitting with his back to a really large rock and calling to the birds when he started to feel weird. Which caused him to look up just in time to catch a lion jumping off the rock and on to him. He was lucky enough to roll and shoot him with his 12ga in the neck area,shook up he reported the attack and was being prosecuted for killing a protected animal!!! I over heard that from a sherriff that goes to the shop alot.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:49 PM

he reported the attack and was being prosecuted for killing a protected animal!!!


Yep, I've heard of similar stories. One runs a bigger risk by telling or reporting the truth than just not saying anything. Sad, but that is how pathetic society as a whole has gotten. The liberal lunatics are alive & well & have definitely taken over.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 07:53 PM

Ya thats the truth frank!

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 01:58 PM

he reported the attack and was being prosecuted for killing a protected animal!!!


I love California, I really do. We have everything we could ever want here, But I dont know what the hell I stay around this place for sometimes. Hearing this makes me sick. And its not just the fish and game regs its everything.
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Posted 05 August 2013 - 05:59 PM

No. Joke. Wildlife management by popular vote wasn't a good idea. Turns out that specially protecting a large predator species that is not endangered just stresses that ecosystem more.

http://www.dfg.ca.go...n/lion_faq.html

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 08:36 PM

Just read the articlle, great read.
Really makes you think, Whos interest are they really concerned with? Human life or animal life?

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 11:38 PM

It amazes me how we read about instances like this occurring, meanwhile the DFG contracts out hunting of the all glorious mountain lion. The mountain lion is going to be the next wild animal to make a home in the city. I hope it never happens, but a hungry feral predator is still a hungry feral predator. I live in Huntington Beach, and there is a coyote problem here in 2013. 

 

Its sad because the cougar cuddlers think that they did a great justice by getting the mountain lions as a protected species here in California. Deer population in southern California??? I am sure the lovable mountain lions have something to do with all the coyotes in the city.

 

If only someone would invent a tool that will get people to pull there heads out of where the sun doesn't shine.



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Posted 12 August 2013 - 09:58 AM

Back in the 70s and early 80s we had a spot in the CNF that we used for deer and varmint hunting. We parked on 79 and hiked in on the Milk Ranch Rd. Back then mountain lions were not really a issue, never even  saw any tracks. I had a late archery tag for dec and jan and had a day off during the week. I always like a evening hunt. So hiked into the spot by myself and got set up in a blind. I sat in the blind for a good 2 hours and didn't see a thing. I watched the sun sink into the pacific and called it a day. I was putting  my day pack on when I herd this terrifying roar about 200 yards up the trail that is used to inter exit the area.  No way was I going out that way.  I made a wide circle and headed back  Sometimes I would go in there with friends but a lot of times I went in there by myself and made the 2.5 or 3 mile hike out in total darkness. No way would I do that now.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 07:19 AM

The wife saw a big cat under a tree on Mission Trails Golf course, just sitting there watching the golfers go by like it was the thing to do...

 

Funny thing was she said that most of the golfers didn't even notice it was there!

 

I used to see lots of deer up on Cowles Mountain and Mission Trails, but not anymore - now I know why...


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 09:50 AM

As a crow flies this cam is setup less than 3 miles from milk ranch road .

 

I dont put that cam up to often but it rarely fails to get a pic of lions coming and going . I'll post more pics later . The camera is in a narrow  choke point so all I usually get is the back half of the lion . The deer definitly know they are there . Sometimes I will put the cam in movie mode and the deer ease in peeking around looking for trouble ,never really at ease or confident .

 

I grew up in Tierrasanta and can remember a jogger walking thier dog near mission trails and a lion actually snatched his dog off his leash while he was walking it .

 

I golf at mission trails alot , the driving range at night is fun you get the added bonus of coyotes running thru . I had some dude get pissed at me beacuse I wouldnt stop hitting golf balls while the "majestic" coyote was strolling thru after eating his fill of course fattened rabbits! Would love to see a lion on the course .



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Posted 14 August 2013 - 10:39 AM

The area we use to hunt is at at the west end of the Milk Ranch Rd. North, and I don't now know but then it was the I will run you over if you are carrying a bow or rifle. The Martin Property. 


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 09:57 PM

I've seen a lion right off of the 52, midday, cresting the hump. Two hills over were hikers at mission trails. I'm sure that was a fun hike.



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Posted 16 August 2013 - 07:06 PM

 Yesterday on the news they had a meeting down at Laguna (Beach or Hills, can't remember), and the residents were complaining about the coyotes taking their dogs and cats. One lady said the coyotes were "out of control." I wonder if those people think the coyote is a majestic/natural part of the environment now. I would bet their opinion is changing.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:13 PM

I worked and lived in Laguna. Most outdoor animals lasted only a few days. Talked to an F&G biologist who was tracking a tagged cougar. The cat would regularly walk along walls or go roof to roof in one of the new developments in Bonita Canyon back then. It also nested and kitted out within 50 yds. of a tract home. F&G never got a complaint.

One of my favorite memories was after one of the bad fire seasons. San Diego to Laguna all got burned up pretty bad. Within two weeks every sign post, bulletin board, street pole was covered with lost pet signs. Then someone posted a neon yellow sign on every public posting place that read, and I'll never forget. "Good cats and dogs don't run away from home, they get eaten. If you love your animals please keep them inside, there are many hungry predators after the fire." I remember more than one kid getting a harsh dose of reality when they would check to see if anyone had taken a phone number tag off their sign.

Even a lot of the wily cats that had evaded the 'yotes for years disappeared. Some neighbors lost dogs out of completely fenced in yards. Never underestimate a hungry dog.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:15 PM

have a friend of mine here has lost a few house cats recently and knows something big is on his property line we have been thinking a large cat is hunting here.



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Posted 03 February 2014 - 06:41 PM

Here's a legit bump. SoCal man mauled by lion this weekend:
http://touch.latimes...e/p2p-79140264/

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 09:17 AM

Damn funny they can't track the cat, oh that's right good old Calyfornia outlawed hounds. ED



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 05:35 PM

A few other states had/have a similar issue with wolves.  Deer and elk populations are crashing, but the wolves are doing great!



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Posted 07 February 2014 - 10:04 PM

funny thing is that there hasn't been reports on cats being in the area that the man was attacked. And I have wondered them hills for years and never have I ever seen tracks.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:27 PM

I found mountain lion tracks and scat while hunting palomar mountain last sseason. It was in an area i normally hit for deer and out in the open on a large rock was the biggest cat scat i ever saw, and tracks to verify it. Ill see if i still have the pics.
Checked my picture folders and i deleted it but i have a buddy who can verify it. There out there.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 05:30 AM

S.S.S.  Anything else will get you in trouble! You cannot be an honest lawbidding citizen in your state anymore.


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Posted 16 February 2014 - 12:46 AM

Well, on a similar note I read they are in the planning stages of reintroducing wolves here in CA as well as a number of other states.

 

But.......What I want is for them to reintroduce the critter on the flag........Grizzlies!!!

 

Just think of how cute and cuddly those can be for the 'cuddly' folks, and their kids, and their dogs and their cats.

 

Cuddly!!!!



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 01:08 PM

Lived in Alaska for 2 years.  Those Grizzlies are CRAZY!!!!   We always had to take big guns just to go fishing.  I suppose bringing them here may open up some of the stream fishing shorelines! 






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