Coyotes how long to die
Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:50 PM
Posted 07 July 2012 - 05:40 PM
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Posted 07 July 2012 - 06:45 PM
Posted 07 July 2012 - 08:40 PM
If you are using centerfire, I'd step up My shooting skills.
Exactly!!! I've always said the #1 reason for unsuccesful hunters is shooting skills. Seen it way too numerous of times.
But like the others stated, we need a little more info... What caliber and type of bullet in other words.
And like some of the others also stated, proper hits with proper bullets from a proper caliber will usually drop a dog in their tracks. A coyote that goes a few yards (approx 30 (+/-) is still a semi good hit. One that takes off for the next county (200+(?) yards & beyond is indeed a result of a poor hit, poor bullet &/or poor caliber choice. But (almost) always is the direct result of a poor hit.
Practice, practice & practice... And use shooting stix or a bi pod!
Posted 07 July 2012 - 08:44 PM
Coyote are tough. I hit them with big caliber like 280 and 300 Win Mag and they run off. So I have to use even bigger gun like the 338 Lapua on the pup in the picture below.
How long does it take them to die .would lke to hear from the pro's on here.Seems like the ones i hit run off and i cant find them.I should give them more time before i go looking for them?
Kidding aside, shot placement is paramount, and yeah - make sure to use enough bullet
Posted 07 July 2012 - 08:47 PM
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 05:01 AM
Posted 08 July 2012 - 07:01 AM
I use dead coyote shot so they should die right.Dont they need tim to bleed out?
A good pattern is important
BINGO !!! Actually it is (almost) everything. And it is just beyond amazing how many, if not most, shotgunners have NO clue how their gun is patterning at certain distances. That is (almost) like going hunting with a rifle without sighting it in. And is exactly why you're not slaying your dogs immediately, if at all. Our longest (immediate) kill with a shotgun is 53 yards btw. But we seldom hunt with shotguns either.
Also, in our (limited) patterning tests for coyotes, Rem 3" #4 buckshot gave substantially better patterns in our guns than the 3 1/2", dead coyote loads. All the way out to 75 yards. In fact the dead coyote ammo patterened terrible at all the distances tested, compariitvely speaking. Different chokes also should be tested with each load at different distances.
Bleed out? What's that? Ok then, WHY do they need to bleed out, if the dog is immediately killed in his tracks or runs a very short distance & then dies? He's DEAD, why bleed him, unless one just LIKES the sight of blood.
Ok, guess I sugar coated this one enough... Good Luck
Posted 08 July 2012 - 07:14 AM
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 08:31 AM
With a shotgun no matter what good coyote load you shoot you can have coyotes take off even when they are hit good. You just never know where the pellets that hit the coyote are going to hit on the coyote. Be ready to shoot coyotes a second and third time with your shotgun if they are moving at all. If they go straight down, but they are still moving, shoot them again.
The coyotes that I have shot with my shotgun that were hit in the vitals and ran off usually flop over dead within 100 yards, most of the time they don't make it over 50 yards. You can't tell if it is a killing shot or not fairly often when they are still moving, so shoot them again until they stop moving.
Posted 08 July 2012 - 09:42 AM
I love this line:
The hevi shot web site says it can kill up to 70 yards.I am going to wait for a closer shot next time.I get to excited when they first appear.
They say a .22 can kill up to a mile................. Stop, take a lesson from Frank, think happy thoughts, don't bang your head against the wall trying to explain
I have had two very distinct instances in as many years recently to prove this point. The first one I even did a write up about. Was reminded again this weekend My hunting partner had started reloading shotgun again and wanted to see how it patterned since he wasn't shooting very well with it. He always shot it a few inches low, but his reloads were hitting over 18" low!!! Would have never known without testing.
BINGO !!! Actually it is (almost) everything. And it is just beyond amazing how many, if not most, shotgunners have NO clue how their gun is patterning at certain distances. That is (almost) like going hunting with a rifle without sighting it in. And is exactly why you're not slaying your dogs immediately, if at all.
The second one was back in March when one of the guys I went with was consistently patterning distinctively to the right. I learned later that day he was shooting right handed but was left eye dominant. He now closes his left eye and shoots much, much better.
I know everyone has to start somewhere, and there will be a lot of trial and error, but the trial and error should be on technique, not your equipment (guns). If you don't want to put effort into knowing your guns, or do not have patience enough to wait another 10 seconds for it to come in, or are more worried about killing than you are about killing cleanly, do us all (and the yotes) a favor and take up golf or tennis............
Posted 08 July 2012 - 10:13 AM
And, you bring up another, primary reason to pattern shotgun loads that I omitted. And that is to see where the darn pattern HITS. I've seen the same thing in other words, where someone's shotgun is not hitting anywhere near the target. Like you say, I've seen them hit 18" off target at 25-30 yards. But lets go "hunting"... whoopieeeeee
Anyway, if one keeps insisting on not patterning & sighting in her/his shotgun, then yes, one better let that coyote get REAL close.
Posted 08 July 2012 - 12:48 PM
Master at shooting clay target i figure yotes would be easier.
Shoot-it why the popcorn smiley what u think your better then me or some thing..
Posted 08 July 2012 - 01:05 PM
Shotgun you just piont the darn thing and shoot you dont aim like a rifle.I am a
Master at shooting clay target i figure yotes would be easier.
Really! So you just point shoot slugs or buckshot at deer??? Coyotes don't fly, they are not birds, and don't get shot at with the same ammo or in the same manner. You have a long road ahead of you I'm afraid. Especially if you do not heed advice from guys like dabob who have literally made a science out of taking them with a shotgun. Good luck, you will be needing it.
Posted 08 July 2012 - 01:36 PM
Shotgun you just piont the darn thing and shoot you dont aim like a rifle.
Of course you do... and whether the gun hits where it's "pointed" or not, or if it has giant holes in it's patterns. Then again, how would you know, right?
I am a Master at shooting clay target
Yeah, isn't everyone... since pointng & jerking a trigger is all there is to it. You're words, not mine! This gives true meaning to the old saying, "you can't fi... oh, never mind
Posted 08 July 2012 - 02:30 PM
Posted 08 July 2012 - 03:09 PM
Time waits for no one--
treasure every moment you have.
Posted 08 July 2012 - 03:13 PM
Posted 08 July 2012 - 04:37 PM
I know how my mossberg 500 shoots
If you have never patterned that load before, and the fact that you are wounding and not killing coyotes (and don't know why) would suggest otherwise
My buddy also thought he knew how his O/U shot........until he checked (patterned) it
You don't shoot clays at 70 yards do you?
I do......................with my rifles
Damn good point John
Posted 08 July 2012 - 04:42 PM
You've been given great advice.
Pattern your gun, let them get closer and pretty soon you'll have those coyotes bleeding out as fast as a clay target... 'Master'.
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