Posted 22 June 2010 - 07:35 AM
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 08:06 AM
"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But I repeat myself."--Mark Twain
Posted 22 June 2010 - 08:16 AM
What am I doing wrong? Here's my typical stand:1. Set up and wait 5 minutes before starting...look around carefully for movement. Sit in a place you can see. Up a little higher is good. Can't shoot what you can't see. If it's flat, sit on a dove stool. Soon as you are ready start calling...no need to wait 5 min...waste of time.2. Lone howl to see if I can get a response. Can the howl for now. Keep it simple. Start hunting from minute one...not looking to see if there is one around. As soon as you are ready, turn on a good distress sound like JS cottontail and let it play.3. Wait a few minutes and try howl again. Waste of time...stick with #2 till about the 12 min mark then start head'n for stand 2.4. If I get a reply I try the pup distress, if not then I go to a prey animal distress (rabbit, kitten, prairie dogs, etc. See #35. Last shot is a yote pack call. After 20 minutes or so I pack up if nothing shows. By 20 minutes you should be settling in to your 2nd stand or close to it.See any common mistakes?Usually...there is no such thing as bad calling. Some people put too much emphasis on sounds and sound combos...true everyone has a favorite sound or call...I have my own as well...but the main thing is to use that sound, not a mixed combination of things. I laugh every time I read someone saying they are trying to create a scenerio for the coyote. I think if you keep it simple you'll do better. The most important thing is location. Most everywhere has coyotes around and you can call one just about anywhere...but certain locations hold more then others. Just use common sense...walk quietly to stands, try to stay low i.e. don't skyline yourself. On a sunny day try keeping the sun at your back...makes it easier to spot incoming critters. If using a e-caller quietly place it just out in front of you. Don't march all around the place...things like that. Keep it simple
Posted 22 June 2010 - 08:33 AM
Posted 22 June 2010 - 08:35 AM
Posted 22 June 2010 - 08:59 AM
BC,When using the howling for coyotes method, I do not wait for a vocal reply. Coyotes often come in silent. I don't wait five minutes before howling either.
It has occured to me that my dismally unsuccessful hunts could be the product of bad calling. Too much calling, too many different sounds, too loud, etc. What am I doing wrong? Here's my typical stand:1. Set up and wait 5 minutes before starting...look around carefully for movement.2. Lone howl to see if I can get a response.3. Wait a few minutes and try howl again.4. If I get a reply I try the pup distress, if not then I go to a prey animal distress (rabbit, kitten, prairie dogs, etc.5. Last shot is a yote pack call. After 20 minutes or so I pack up if nothing shows.See any common mistakes?
Posted 22 June 2010 - 09:28 AM
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 02:35 PM
Posted 22 June 2010 - 02:44 PM
To me active coyote dens is not late season...it's off season. But howling and pup distress around active dens can get you some action.
I had one place with active coyote dens and hit the howling quite a bit.
Posted 22 June 2010 - 02:56 PM
Posted 22 June 2010 - 03:16 PM
The only howling I have done has been with my Foxpro callers the last three seasons. Before I got my FX5 I used cassette callers for 22 years. Early in the season I think howling will scare off way more coyotes than it will call in. During mateing season the chances of calling in coyotes with coyote vocals are much better.I am really impressed with the results I have had with pup distress sounds and they work any time of the year.With my Burnham Brothers and Johnny Stewart cassette callers we used one rabbit distress sound and played it full blast for 10 to 15 minutes and then moved to another stand. We killed lots of coyotes with one sound.The first cassette copy we had was called Half Grown Jack. It got much louder after about 5 minutes of playing time and quite often the coyotes came into the caller 2 to 5 minutes after the tape got louder. So we started using more volume and ended up playing the sound on full volume all the time and it worked good. We hunt in open country most of the time so this full volume my not work in some areas.
dabob, Do you have much experience with howling? If so, maybe a quick tutorial could help some of us out.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 06:49 AM
Howling for coyotes is an art in itself. It is the most misunderstood calling method there is, but is very effective when used correctly. The spring and summer months are a very good time to use the howling method. Mating season during late winter is also a good time for howling.
I do not howl unless I see them or here them first. Its too easy to sound bigger than the coyote your after . No coyote is going to come in just to get wooped buy a bigger one. A good chalenge howl will scare most off. IMO. Need to sound wimpy and week. Can't beat the good old rabbit.
Posted 29 June 2010 - 07:27 AM
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treasure every moment you have.
Posted 29 June 2010 - 04:50 PM
Well said John. A caller needs to gain some confidence with the old tried and true prey distress screams first.
I agree with Rich, but for new guys who have never called in a coyote at all it's probably a skill left to more experienced callers.
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