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...California has something we don't but I wish we did.......stripers.
Supposedly there's pretty good striper fishing on the Umpqua. I agree they are an excellent tasting fish and probably one of the most fun to catch since they're such great fighters.

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The Umpqua is an awesome river. I've caught steelhead, smallmouth and american shad on it. I've heard there is a decent sturgeon fishery but have never heard about stripers, could be very possible that it has stripers too. Beautiful River for sure. The spring striper run is really heating up in the delta, with the trollers working the tule berms, where they hold producing limits when the wind lays down.

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Here's one editorial that seem to be on the objective about this issue..."April 16, 2008 Headlines Salmon Season Closed It's been quite awhile since anglers have received any good news in regards to our fisheries but that is exactly what we want to share with our readers today. GOOD NEWS X THREE!. See our "Fishing News" page for key policy changes and a court ruling that will improve our future salmon returns. No, we will not have an ocean salmon season this year or next but this bill, a court ruling and a new F&G and federal hatchery release policy will help enhance our fisheries in the future. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Connnk, connnk, connnk... that is the PFMC's hammer, nailing in the last spike to the coffin of our California salmon fisheries. We just received word on Thursday 4-10 evening that the entire coast of California has been closed to salmon fishing. Our source who called in at 6:PM from the PFMC meeting left just a brief message saying that while they tried to get a short Klamath Management Zone and Eureka fishery as well as a few holiday weekends the models could not justify any fishery at all in California. Oregon fared only slightly better with no commercial season and a few very limited sport areas open this year. We still don't know the allowed quota for the Klamath in-river fishery and if there will be a fishery with no adult take on the Central Valley rivers??? It is NOT the PFMC's fault for closing the fishery. The collapse of our salmon fisheries is due to the governor of California allowing unchecked water diversion by the state Department of Water Resources and the BOR which resulted in the collapse of the Delta food chain. This coupled with (but certainly not the largest impact) with poor ocean feed conditions in 2005 and 2006 and the 50% reduction in hatchery production over the past few years are the reason (s) for the collapse of our salmon stocks. It's not over fishing, it's just a complete incompetence by our state and federal agencies who are suppose to manage and protect our water and fishery resources who are to blame. One day, maybe the public will wake but for now it's too late and a $100 million plus fishery has been lost. Only though the support of the many organizations that are fighting for the recovery of our fisheries will we every have a salmon fishery again. I hope that our readers will support us and the many others out there in that effort. The salmon have no voice other than anglers and if we don't continue this battle we will have failed our children and a fishery will love so much. What a terrible legacy we have left the generations behind us. I hope that the politicians, fishery managers and the governor are out there are proud of their "accomplishments". Mike Aughney-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Back on the Soap BoxThe future of our fisheries appear very bleak. Between the nearly complete shut down of our California salmon fisheries, the upcoming adoption of MLPAs, shortened rockfish seasons, the collapse of the Delta due to unprecedented water diversion levels and the complete lack of management by the Department of Fish and Game we are now on the edge of a compete collapse of not only our fisheries but sportfishing as we know it today.There is some hope of a better future but only if sport anglers support the many groups that are working their tails off to ensure viable fisheries in the future. I receive several emails every week from readers asking who they should support? The short answer is all of them. While these groups do compete to get their "message" out all have one thing in common, healthy viable fisheries and our right to fish in the future.With the salmon season all but completely shut down for the next two years we are going to be much more focused on the political side of our fisheries and will be highlighting different fishery groups and the great things they are doing throughout our pages. Over the past several months we have been talking up Water4fish.org We have been working closely water4fish founders Dick Poole and Sep Hendrickson. To date over 55,000 sport anglers have signed their petition. Dick has said that USAFishing.com readers have been key to their success of raising political support to stop future water diversions out of the Delta and our rivers. He just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their support and sent a letter stating that this week. That battle in far from over and much more needs to be done on many fronts. The most pressing issue right now is the MLPAs and the effects it will have on recreational fishing opportunities for decades to come. The Coastside Fishing Club has been leading the charge to keep huge areas of our coast from being shut down to sportfishing through the MLPAS process. For the past several years they have been at the forefront of this fight and have come up with the best proposal "2XA" which will protect fisheries and allow sportfishing in many of the MLPAs to continue. They are working closely with the ASA to ensure that YOU can have the right to fish in the future. Environmental groups have been spending millions to use the MLPA process to stop fishing along huge swaths of our coast. Individuals within Coastside have put in literally 1000s of hours of their own personal time to fight for your right to fish. We are asking that you go to http://capwiz.com/keepamericafishing/issue...ESS=Take+Action and sign their petition. It takes only about two minutes to support your right to fish in the future. I want to express my thanks to Coastside for all they have done. I only hope that our readers see how important this issue is. If 2XA is not adopted by the Cal Fish and Game Commission we could lose nearly all of our most viable rockfishing areas within state waters from Pigeon Pt to Point Arena. Anglers need to get involved with the political process and support the many groups that are fighting for the fisheries we all so much love. If every California angler donated the equivalent of what they spend on their annual fishing license ($38.85 plus stamps) over $100 MILLION could be raised ever year. With a war chest of this size sportfishing organizations would have the political clout and funding to turn our fisheries around. If anglers don't support these groups then our fisheries and fishing rights will only continue to vanish right before our eyes. Mike Aughney"

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Thought you salmon guys might want to hear what's going on up north.Oregon & Washington state had voted to kill off up to 85 sea lions per year for the next 5 years from the Bonneville Damn on the Columbia River due to the impact the sea lions were having on the salmon run. Of course PETA and all of the other animal right's groups intervened through the courts and a compromise to trap and relocate the animals was made. Since then, 3 sea lions have been successfully relocated to SeaWorld in Orlando, Florida. One has died under anesthesia while waiting to be relocated at a Tacoma, Washington zoo. And the big news: Yesterday afternoon officials found the bodies of 6 sea lions that were shot to death inside the traps. Since the sea lions are federally protected, both state and federal authorities are investigating. I can only imagine how the animal right's groups are going to react to this. They're so worried about killing up to 425 sea lions over the next 5 years, but what about the salmon who's numbers are already dangerously low??? If you figure each sea lion kills 1 to 2 fish per day, that's 85 to 170 fish per day or roughly 2,635 to 5,270 salmon saved just in the month of May alone. Evidently common sense is not a factor with the animal right's groups. Fish & Game should have just killed off the sea lions instead of wasting tons of time, tax dollars, and SALMON.

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I know for a fact that sea lions kill more than just one or two fish per day. Seals, too. At the mouth of the Columbia when I kept my boat at Ilwaco I watched two or 3 sea lions get into a school of king salmon. The sea lions would bring the fish to the surface and shake their head until the fish came apart then grab another one. We watched them destroy at least two dozen salmon. This was in open water. Just imagine how they work where the fish are stacked up at the fish ladder.It's amazing to me that sea lions can keep up with the salmon but they can. Those big blobs of fat are extremely agile and fast. When I lived in SE Alaska I don't know how many salmon I caught that had a seal bite on them. Seals get into a school of salmon and take a bite out of as many fish as they can then feed on the carnage. I've had seals attack a fish while I was playing it.

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I just found this on Sea Lions today.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24457199/updated 11:19 a.m. PT, Mon., May. 5, 2008PORTLAND, Ore. - For years, the sea lions lounging at the Bonneville Dam have had easy pickings from salmon waiting to go up fish ladders to upriver spawning grounds.Over the weekend, the federally protected sea creatures were themselves easy prey for a gunman who shot and killed six of the sea lions as they lay in traps meant to humanely catch them.State and federal authorities were investigating the shootings, which came less than two weeks after an appeals court issued a temporary injunction against authorities killing the salmon-gobbling mammals. Agents have been trapping them instead, but trapping will be suspended during the investigation, said Rick Hargrave, a spokesman for the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife.Fishermen and American Indian tribes have pushed to protect the salmon and remove the sea lions, by lethal force if necessary.The carcasses of the four California sea lions and two Steller sea lions were found Sunday around noon below the Bonneville Dam on the Columbia River on the border of Oregon and Washington.The six animals appear to have been shot by somebody on the Washington side during the night, said Brian Gorman, a spokesman for the National Marine Fisheries Service.Two closed cages each contained the carcasses of two California sea lions and one Steller sea lion, he said.Necropsies were planned for all the animals, and the area was being treated as a crime scene by state and federal agencies, Gorman said.Elephant seals killed earlierThe discovery came one day after three elephant seals were found shot to death at a breeding ground near San Simeon in central California. Investigators will try to determine whether there is any link between the shootings, Gorman said.On the Columbia, seven California sea lions were trapped starting April 24 after the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals approved their capture. One died during a medical inspection before transfer to a Sea World park.Washington and Oregon have been granted federal authorization to capture or kill as many as 85 sea lions a year for five years at the base of the dam.The Humane Society of the United States has gone to court to challenge the authorization, with another hearing set for May 8. Until a judge rules, no animals may be legally killed."We're really shocked," said Sharon Young, a Humane Society spokeswoman, who learned about the sea lion deaths from a reporter. "We're a nation of laws, and we should expect people to abide by them."

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Agents have been trapping them instead, but trapping will be suspended during the investigation, said Rick Hargrave, a spokesman for the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife.
Typical waste of government money. Say goodbye to salmon fishing...

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And so the saga continues... Today, MSNBC has released several new stories regarding the sea lions. First, they are now saying that it appears that the 6 dead sea lions were NOT shot to death, but some have puncture wounds that appear similar to sea lion bites. Basically, they have no idea what really killed them.Then, they found another dead sea lion floating near the Bonneville Damn and retrieved the body to do a necropsy in hopes of determining the cause of death of that one.And finally, the real kick to the teeth of salmon fisherman everywhere...An out-of-court agreement has been reached between the Humane Society of the United States and state and federal governments that BLOCKS KILLING OR PERMANENT REMOVAL OF SEA LIONS in the Columbia River until EARLY 2009!!!Is it just me, or since when did the Humane Society gain the power to dictate how our fish & game departments operate? What gives them the right to decide that a few hundred sea lions are worth more than several hundred thousand salmon? In my opinion, the Humane Society is probably enjoying the fact that there is no salmon fishing season this year. Little do they realize how much of an impact this is going to have on the fish & game's budget for other wildlife programs. I think if they want to save the sea lions, they should have to make a hefty contribution to the Washington & Oregon state fish hatcheries to compensate for the damage that the sea lions are doing to the salmon population. They need to put their money where their mouth is.

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I don't know where the HSUS gets it's funding but it has a lot of money. With the appointment of so many liberal judges it only stands to reason they would find one to cave in. I also don't understand what the fuss is over the dead sea lions. They've trapped and relocated these animals before only to have them return over and over again. Someone did us all a favor. They suspect an inside job but I wouldn't be surprised to find out it was the Indians. It's a typical grundle f**ked government operation.

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The money comes in from the liberal groups. Their money comes from OLD money, like the Pew group, that was all started by the descendants of the founder of Sonoco Oil. John Kerry's wife, Heinz got her money from the Heinz food founders. These people have more money than Jesus on a good sunday. They dole out HUGE amounts to these liberal groups, many of them then pass it along to the really radical ones. (like ELF, etc) There is so much money available to these organizations that it is hard to stop. HS has a LOOOOONG history of backing bad causes. They have screwed up so many times that anyone would a brain would ignore them. But, they have fat wallets and that gets them the ear of the gov't. HS is the largest anti-hunting group in the nation. If you want a great read, pick up the politically incorrect guide to hunting. Boy, that book sheds some light on the dirty deeds. It is a must read and provides great quotes and specific info. I have shut down a few anti's and vegatarians with it.

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