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I need a metal gong-like target for practicing 223

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For me, punching holes in paper gets boring quickly, and sometimes it's frustrating too. Never good enough... But I LOVE steel targets that let you know when you hit them. I had some good ones made from thick steel pipe for use with my 22lrs in college, but I donated them to the community desert range. There's some public BLM land 25 min from my house where I can shoot anywhere I want. I'd really enjoy having a small portable steel target to shoot at with my 223, 17HMR, and 22lr. Something that's about the size of a box of ammo perhaps, or maybe just a 6-inch circle, something simple. *THWACK* I love that sound. I plan to use it for shooting offhand and from shooting sticks to practice hunting situations at distances from 50-300 yards. It needs to have some sort of base or legs to hold it steady so it won't fall over after each shot. And something that is a few inches off the ground might be handy to clear the grass, but it's not a requirement.But I don't want to spend big bucks to have something made and shipped to me. Most of the commercial ones I've seen are pricey! Does anybody have any ideas for something I can make myself? Has anybody attempted a project like this before? I'm thinking something like a round 6" piece of steel with some thick rebar welded onto the back and bent to form a brace. Maybe a place for a tent stake to stake it to the ground? Any ideas?

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I've made lots of them over the years. It's my welding background coming out in me. I like a 1/2 thick round circle plate. I hang them from some chain or a rod with a tube swivel at the top. But you don't want to shoot it a 50 yards with your .223. The .17HMR is fine at that distance. Any decent steel yard will have lots of scrap and usually round cut outs or similar shape. You can drill and bolt the chain to make it easy. As you mentioned a piece of rebar bent into a U can be pushed into the ground. I like to us angle iron with a base like an H and two uprights attached at the top. Let me know I can help you put one together I have all of the equipment to build anything from steel.

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I think it's 3/16" thick.
That's a bit thin. But free is free. Railroad tract tie plates that hold the track to the wood ties are great too. They're made from good hard steel and plenty thick unless you shoot the big stuff.When I was a kid I had a several cases of 30-06 black tipped armor piercing rounds. Just cheap fun stuff to shoot. It went through most everything Many years later a guy brought up these steel plate targets he had made to a friends house to shoot at our range. We had an old hydraulic gold mining pit on my friends property and we had a 600 yard range set up. Anyway he goes about setting up his targets and says try hitting them. Art my buddy said no problem you pick them and John will knock them down. But art handed me some armor piercing rounds to use. His friend pointed one out and I shoot and nothing. He says you missed it you hit long. So this goes on a few more times and I tell Art I don't know what the problem is I'm dialed right in. :) So I shot again and he says missed long you're shooting over them. Art says, "I don't think so, here have a look through the scope I see marks on the targets." The guy looks and says stop shooting you're putting holes in my targets. We had pulled one over on him and laughed like little kids. That target looked like premium Swiss cheese. :(

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I like where the guy said.

I even shot one with some .50 BMG incendiary rounds at 700 yards and it did fine.
Because before 700 yards there would be a shiny 1/2 inch hole in it. And if he'd used an armor piercing round he couldn't see the target it would be so far away. ;) They're nice but heavy and a fair piece of change. I'll make you one Ben! :o

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My cousin works with heavy machinery and is making me a target from 3/4 inch steel. He's not sure of its hardness rating so when I get it, I'll start at 100+ yards with a soft nose 223 to try it out.... It supposedly will be square 12X12, now my problem will be figuring out how to hang it and how to lug it out there :blink:.

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I've never weighed it, but its a good 25 pounds I'd say... It was a disappointment as it was a pretty soft metal. 223's made some real damage at about 75 yards. 30-06 at 165 yards did some major damage too, the plate isn't going to be around much longer :rolleyes:

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I have access to alot of scrap metal . Is it safe to shoot in too thick metal ? I allways thought it would come back at you.One time like 10 years ago I shot my uncles 357 mag useing 38 special loads into a peice of 1x1 foot x 1/2 thick steel plate and it came back and hit me in my stomach I just about freaked out all it did was leave a red mark,but i never did that again i was 20 feet away too. I still shoot steel sometimes but i shoot light gauge stuff too make sure it gos through.

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I'm also a welder, this is one of the targets I've made 3/8" mild steel, holds up to any handgun and .223 leaves a small dent. You get the nice sound and a good visual swing.varminttarget.jpg

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Lug is right! What's the weight on a piece of 3/4" plate cut down to 12"X12" ???
That would weigh 30.6 pounds for that piece. :(

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I'm also a welder, this is one of the targets I've made 3/8" mild steel, holds up to any handgun and .223 leaves a small dent. You get the nice sound and a good visual swing.varminttarget.jpg
You did a good job on that did you use a plasma cutter on the targets .I was thinking on making one too I was just going too make a circle target. :(

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No, I've got a pantagraph burning table at my shop, make a drawing and it will burn it out with flame cut.

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Wow I never heard of that machine thats some high tech dog poop...............I just use the old stuff like cutting torch and plasma cutter.......... :( any way it looks like fun too shoot at i will make one of mine and post it too... :(

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Wow I never heard of that machine thats some high tech dog poop...............I just use the old stuff like cutting torch and plasma cutter.......... :( any way it looks like fun too shoot at i will make one of mine and post it too... :(
Its by no meens high tech, the machine is probably older then me. It works though! I've made other targets also, farm animals, african game, north american game got about 14 different animals, this is the only one I got a picture of, was thinking anout selling them on GunBroker for some side cash, got a whole $11.50 for one like pictured, that sucked :(

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My cousin works with heavy machinery and is making me a target from 3/4 inch steel. He's not sure of its hardness rating so when I get it, I'll start at 100+ yards with a soft nose 223 to try it out.... It supposedly will be square 12X12, now my problem will be figuring out how to hang it and how to lug it out there ;).
Nothing to try out. Your 223 will not pentatrate 3/4 plate even with AP ammo.

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Nothing to try out. Your 223 will not pentatrate 3/4 plate even with AP ammo.
I have some plow steel you can use...................it is very hard .........for 223 I would start with some 1/2 inch and see what happens.Then it would be easy too haul around too....... :P

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I have some plow steel you can use...................it is very hard .........for 223 I would start with some 1/2 inch and see what happens.Then it would be easy too haul around too....... :P
3/8ths plate is the ticket. 1/2 inch is still too much. That is for a 223 or any 22 centerfire. 30-06 with 165gr and under won't pierce 3/8 either. But with AP it will pierce 1" at a 90 degree angle under 100yds.

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I must really have some soft steel... Shooting the plate from about 75 yards with the 223, the other side of the plate bulged already. I had to stop shooting it with centerfires so that it would last longer :lol: A slug from about 20 feet didn't even scratch it.

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I must really have some soft steel... Shooting the plate from about 75 yards with the 223, the other side of the plate bulged already. I had to stop shooting it with centerfires so that it would last longer :lol:
No, you have mild steel it isn't very durable. I'd watch the plow steel depending on age. It could shatter older high carbon steel like glass. :lol:

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I'd watch the plow steel depending on age. It could shatter older high carbon steel like glass. B)
Well shooterjohn i was never planing on useing it just costs too much per ft to waste as a target.If the plow steel is already hard faced it will shatter.Every year I have too re hard face the ripper shanks because of the wear from the soil. I have a piece i think laying around somewhere I will get back and shoot at it and see what happens dont worry i will go back 100 yards or so...... ;)

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I must really have some soft steel... Shooting the plate from about 75 yards with the 223, the other side of the plate bulged already. I had to stop shooting it with centerfires so that it would last longer ;) A slug from about 20 feet didn't even scratch it.
Joel let me get the facts striaght. Are you saying your shooting at a piece of 3/4"plate steel? Even if its mild steel(Which I'm virtully certian it would be IF its steel) Ok and a 223 is bulgeing out? If so it isn't steel.Do you have a magnet? See if it sticks. I'm an Ironworker by trade I work with steel and heavy plate daily.3/4 inch plate is tough &heavy stuff.If you have a target made out of 3/4" plate you should be able to shoot it over and over again with a 223 with no fear of pierceing it.

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I'll check it with a magnet tonight. Its origin is unknown as my cousin found it at work just laying around and his boss allowed him to take it for free....

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I'm an Ironworker by trade I work with steel and heavy plate daily.
Hey then I want to get my former background in here too. I was a welder by trade for several years before I was crippled up by a drunk driver that hit me as a pedestrian. But I have a degree in Metallurgy too. I went on to choose a different profession but I know a little about metal too! ;)

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Hey then I want to get my former background in here too. I was a welder by trade for several years before I was crippled up by a drunk driver that hit me as a pedestrian. But I have a degree in Metallurgy too. I went on to choose a different profession but I know a little about metal too! ;)
Nothing funny about drunk drivers,what happend to him? Jail,lawsuit? Hope you stuck it to him.What type of welding did you use to do? Ya high carbon means it can shatter like Cast Iron.I shot at a 10LB cast iron weight you use on barbells with an AP round. It shattered it!!!!!

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