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I don't have any interest in doing a lift maybe just slightly bigger tires. A kid in one of my classes drove a lifted JEEP down a curvy road around here, took a turn too fast and the suspension unloaded on him and he rolled into a ditch, totaling the JEEP. I looked at doing one of those axle swaps and it cost $1300 for just the parts not including the axle and steering stuff.

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ya i said it was easy not cheap lol. But if you know someone like me who can weld it makes a whole lot cheaper but again ifs isnt all that bad specially if your not looking to really lift it much

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Please tell me why do folks what to spend all that money lifting a vehicle? What advantage does it have?
I like taller tires, not always wider but taller. In snow it rides up on top rather than pushing the snow ahead of the tire. On dirt roads they ride smoother. Over curb sized bumps it takes less power to push them over. And it lifts my hot exhaust a little higher out of the grass. My current ride is a Dodge 2500, Its high enough already and came stock with 31" tires. My Toyota came with 26", and my Ford Ranger with 27" tires. Both benifited greatly with a 31"tire. the Toyota did not need any lift for the new tires but the Ford rubbed the wheel wells. I added a body lift [under $100 at that time] and that stopped the rub. Then I realised that the front suspention travel from rest to the upper bump stop was only 3/4", So I added a Leveling spring. it raised the front to the level of the back and gave about 2" of travel. that smoothed the ride conciderably, the front end was not contacting the bumpstops at even modest potholes anymore. DR

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I would look for a good used jeep cherokee they make nice hunting rigs and when lifted with 33 tires they look mean.Parts are real common to.

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the problem with cherokees ( aka XJ) are they are like hondas if you buy one from a kid or some one who like to race chances are they are beat to hell. Not only that if you dont buy the right model then expect to put some money into it to make it capable of doing anything good. I had a 1990 XJ and it was crap for off road. I got stuck in light mud and the limited slip system they have pretty much makes the 4x4 junk because it tranfer all power to the wheels that are sliping because they have the least amount of friction. Not saying they are bad just that if you dont know what your looking at or watch what you buying the chances of getting crap are pretty high.

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If you buy any car from someone else you are taking a chance that they beat the crap out of it. As far as the limited slip you are talking about, that is what any limited slip differential does, if you dont put a true locker in then you will have nothing but a limited slip. XJs and ZJs are great for off road and have a ton of aftermarket stuff to ad to them if you choose to. If you are mainly going to use the vehicle as a hunting rig then an IFS rig will be just fine but there is no way the average IFS rig will do what an average sraight axle rig will but you know what they say about opinions...

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I have experienced that limited slip many times that's why when i bought my last two Gmc 's i payed extra for the posi rear end .

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some xjs you can get that are not fully locked but will at least be locked in the rear
True but you can put a easy locker or tru-trac on any vehicle for under $500 and that doesn't mean you won't get stuck, you should always know you and your vehicles limitations before you go off roading and never go wheeling alone. Hunting is another thing and lord knows I have had my Jeep in some places I shouldn't have been without another vehicle to help if I need and yet I still haven't had to use my winch to to pull myself out of a jamb (knock on wood)

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You the man Ron! I've had to use my 10,000 lb winch twice in the last 3 weeks! One Border Patrol agent and his Tahoe (stuck trying to get out of a very soft sand wash). The other a family and their Suburban (they had no business being offroad). Gave my little Rubicon a workout for sure! If you have the money, invest in at least one locker that way you'll have at least 3 wheels to bail you out. If you can't invest in a locker, at least invest in a winch.

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ensuring at least three wheels means you need a locking transfer case and a locker in one of the differentials. Many 'auto' or 'fulltime' 4x4 systems either have a nonlocking or a limited slip transfer case, or like older Jeep models (and others) had a separate transfer lock switch you had to use if you wanted true 4x4. You would sometimes see transfers setting of 4 High and then a 4 High lock and 4 low lock.

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If you go V8 swap let me tell you Ive built alot of prerunners and offroad race cars and you cant beat a LS 1 motor (late 90s early 2000 camaro and firebird)cheap $1500 to $2000 405hp just add a delph 4 wire brain and your good to GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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LoL! My dad picked up one in the late 70's and I ended up learning to drive with it..Great vehicle for off-road!

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Lots of people off road without knowing a thing. I go to the sand dunes a lot and on any given weekend see 20+ people stuck. Like said above know what your vehicle can and cant do and if your gonna try something sketchy make sure u have a friend or two with a vehicle to help u out if u get stuck. I have a 01 chevy with a limited slip and have been a bunch of places that i shouldnt have been. Just take it slow and keep all 4 wheels on the ground and u should be good.

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I have a 1965 scout and it runs great. they arent much on frills though. I usually use my s10 blazer 4x4 because its nicer to drive. If i know im going on a difficult road .. the scout and its winches are a better option.

I like the scout because of the very torquey v8, points ignition, and mechanical fuel delivery. They are easy to work on and dont need a whole lot of maintenance. if you are good with a wrench and a welder, they will last you a lifetime.

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